Approved@fior Release 2003104/18 : CIA-RDP96-OqV7ROO0400070030-0 26 JAN 73 MEMO FOR THE RECORD SUBJECT Parapsych Discussion with C/TSD 1. 1 had lunch with C/TSD in his office today and inter alia'we discussed parapsych phenomena in general, the SRI presentation, TSD's interest in the field an&my 23 Jan paper--a copy otwhich he read while I waited. The salient aspects were as follows: a. The 52 K figure accurately represents TSD's investment in SG1H the SRI project--and, in 1953 and 1963, they also supportecf-_ to some extent but are no longer involved; b. C/TSD sees no short-range payoff operationally in these efforts but feels quite strongly that research should continue; specifically, he feels that the existence of undefined parapsych phenomena of certain types has been established beyond all reasonable doubt- -and it is his feeling that, though the Agemcy is not the most logical organization to support continuing research, we ought to fill the gap until someone else does; c. In that context, he intends to have the directors of ARPA and NSA in his office soon to try to persuade them to join him in signing a letter to the National Science Foundation (NSF)--urging them to support a long-range (3 to 5 year) prograin of intensive research in this area; but, even if this effort should succeed (and he has no real feeling for whether it will or not), any suchV6 program is not apt to get started for a year or so; d. C/TSD had no basic arguments with the paper (other than that he believes 'whether' has already been established) and agrees basically with the recommendations --and appears to be willing to go along with a proposal for joitn action if DDS&T is willing to put up the money; W e. He believes thatVo the SRI people would agree to the conditions set out in the paper. L SG1 I Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00787ROO0400070030-0