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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC 95
1. (S) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information on a target of interest to USI.
SG1A The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the
2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any inter@
mediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the
information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document,
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the
remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer. At TAB C is a map on which the
viewer has indicated his opinion of the target location. This opinion
should be considered separate from his remote viewing impressions as it
is only an analytical attempt by him to match RV perceived terrain features
to a map. The viewer was shown a map of the Mediterranean Sea only after
he had finished his remote viewing.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC 95
TIME
SG1A
#66: This is a remote viewing session for the 6th of May
1980. We have an on-target time of 0900 hours.
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Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate.
Focus your attention . . . . . on the area known
as the Mediterranean Sea.
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Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention on the area
known as the Mediterranean Sea.
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Focus your attention on the area of the Mediterranean Sea.
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Focus your attention specifically on the downed aircraft
of interest.
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Describe the location of the aircraft to me.
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+07 #10.5: 1 keep getting . . . . .
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I keep a
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I keep getting this very . . . . very flat horizon
with one exception.
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#10.5: Located on the horizon in front of me is the . . . .
. . an island or something. This is reasonably . . .
size. Has one . . . looks like one main hill or mountain,
I . . . . the Island is almost crescent shape.. It has-a
bay in it. A curve close by. This island is approximately
0 0 . I think its about 15 miles from where I was and I am
right off one side of the . . . crescent. The crescent is
on the right side of the . . . . in my view.
#66: Describe your relative position of observation.
#10.5: I'm . . . . like it . . . at sea level and the waves are
right in under me. I think.
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I had a I didn't have a visual . . . I'm not but
I had a feeling of the sea floor beneath me being at about
the 1200 foot level. And, that what we were after was on
a . . . down slope, not a bid drop off, but a slope.
Up slope or down slope. It tapers off from the direction
of the island. I'm going up and I'm going down. From
going up and going down, its very . . . difficult. Then I
had a . . an aerial with a big black X, which . . . in my
feeling put me in the . . a very, very far back corner of
the . . of the ocean. And that the X was about equal
distance between a . . . a blotch and what I thought was a
coastline. . . that goes in a channel. The distance. . . .
the very, very hard to work. But I had the feeling that I
was . . . . off the coast of Turkey. In the . . . . . . .
near the Bosporus in the entrance way to the straights.
But out from there some miles, so that . . . so that these
distances are still far.
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#66: Position yourself with the downed aircraft. Report when
you've done so.
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#10.5: Yeah.
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#66: Describe it to me.
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#10.5: Well, its . . . not much to describe. I got . . . . .
Its . . . . . All I have is a . . . . . It seems to be
pointed up slope. It . . . seems to be . . . its nose
is obscured but I have the feeling of a . . * . .
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#10.5: like a . . . Its not that big, its like a . . . twin
ANEW canopy one behind the other lash up. But its buried
in its nose like this . . . silth is fallen all down
around it and . . .
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+17 Its . . . I definitely get the feeling this thing really
0 . . . fell apart. . . Really fell apart when it went
in. It - - * - - I don't have the feeling that it . . .
is in tact at all. I'm trying to get a . . . . get
#66: Report the raw imagery to me. Report just the raw
imagery,
#10.5: I'm getting a long. cylinder, nothing else. Just a
long cylinder like fusalage. It
tail thing sticking up out of it
Its on the down hill side within
There are large pieces of flat metal
right and the left, but they are
are like . . . . at . . . like a
in a gulley down there.
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has a . . . single. .
on the down hill side.
the . . . .
which are to the
a long ways away. They
. . . . . down the hill
Like there is stuff laying all over. But the main item is
low +20 a long cylinder. It appears to be maybe . . . . . . . . .
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55 or . . . what I can see is maybe 55 or 60 . . . . feet
long.
#66: All right, I want you to relax and concentrate for a
moment. I want you to listen to me very carefully.
Just relax and concentrate. Hold in your perceptions.
I want you now to open up all information channels
available to you. All information channels. Not limiting
your perceptions. Open up all information channels and
in your mind ask yourself, by what means . . . . can I
locate this aircraft. Do so now.
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#10.5: 1 don't know.
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+27 At this time. . . . . there is a . . . .
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I don't. . ha. . . . There are two ways . . . . . . . .
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#10.5: The geometry appears to be the ways@ are being shown
the crescent of the island makes an arc . . .
6n*th'e'on*e side of the arc, extending a line directly
at that radian the distance of some 15 miles or so
will bring us to a point that intersects a line from
this . . . . channel or . . . idea that I keep thinking
which is on a main up the coastal area and is not an
island. The lines will intersect perpendicular and X
marks the spot. Secondly, there is a ship. . that I
was shown that's a freighter or about . . . 25 or 30,000
tons. That is steaming on a course right now. . . which
will add the third leg to the perpendicular. I will
cross. Damn near to the X. The freighter is something
'Morning'. 'Mistress Morning' or 'Mythris Morning' and
I don't know if its . . . what registry it is.
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Its a registry that has a. single
star in a triangle with stripes. Something that's star
shaped and a triangle with stripes.
#66: All right fine. I have no further
target. If there's anything that
please do so now.
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#10.5: 1 . . . .
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I am working on the island way.
#66: Um hm.
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#10.5: There is a . . .
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questions about the
you'd like to add
I think only one small fishing village. Some cluster
of structures is located on the far side as though
looking away from where the target is. The entire island
is very mountainous and rocky. There was no . . . . real
natural harbors but near the fishing village is on a very
gentle - maybe south side of the island nestled in the
foothills and under a rather high mountain. I was on the
mountain top and it is maybe several, maybe several
thousands of feet. . it felt. . above sea level. But it
is all only one mountain, island. Looking at the . . .
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fishing village which is about centered on another
*APO, curving shoreline but a gentler curve than the one
over here. On the right of that is a . . . subridge
or a submountain which extends out into the water and
has a second little cap on it.
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Fishing village size is only maybe several hundred
people. Maybe 500 people. And the . . there's no
natural harbor. It is another situation where they
beach their boats and such.
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That's about it.
#66: All right fine. Let's prepare to draw the perceptions
you've had here.
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#10.5: Oh, Jesus. I'm trying to do this overlay of this map
from the top or this island from the top while I still
have it.
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I don't know. I can't vouch for the island contour.
That's the problem. . . is that I . . I'm trying to get
that before anything else happens, before I lose it.
But the island sits here. There is the curved beach okay.
Crescent. Here is the longer beach and in the middle of
that is he little fishing village idea. So that when
you lWat the fishing village on the right you.see
this little extra knob coming out in the water like a
little submountain out in the water on the right side.
On the left its just a ridge line coming down and the
mountain peak in the background. I saw it.
This is the idea I was trying to get across. Is that
this crescent, if you take that angle of this crescent,
at the angle of radius of the crescent like this, okayq
. . 0 . like this thing. . and run it out. Its all
geometry, you know, nothing happened, no magic numbers
popped into my head or anything like that. I think I
That's the idea there okay. And then up here
up here. . . is this feeling that I was in the
Eastern end of the Med at the mouth of the Bosporus, you
know, off the coast of Turkey type of an area. Way up
in the . . way back in the cranny of the Med. Okay.
And that the . . there was some sort of a channel in-the
coastline and that's why maybe I'm calling it that. Okay.
But that the coastline comes down like this. You know.
And the coastline comes down like that. And this is some
sort of a channel.
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Iwo, #10.5: And this is land mass. And I'll say Turkey. You know.
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Question mark@ okay. And the idea is that if you make
a 90 degree angle with these. . or not even a 90 degree
angle. If you run the angle of this coastline '
of this channel line. . . its supposed to be a 96 @e;r;e
angle, I . . . here. 'Cause I remember that it very
clearly was a 90 degree like that. Okay, now if you run
your dotted line out this way, . . . .
the feeling was that where they meet th;r; Wa's @his*big
black X floating in what I took to be the . . . Okay.
That's what I'm talking about. And that where theset'wo.
lines intersect is where I was. But what I have to say
is that to my. . . when I was there, I could see the
mountain on the horizon but I could not see this channel.
I felt that there was something over there but it was not
visible from the ocean level, the feeling of sea level.
It was like it was over the horizon. I was far enough
away that I couldn't see what was happening. But this
was prominent enough that it stuck up above the horizon.
Okay. And I estimated that this distance. . . what did
I say? 15 miles. But that is very, very weird. You have
to take that with a grain of salt. And the reason is
because I've never done anything like this before, you know
and I automatically was like compensating. Saying.to myself
Oh, wait a minute, you're out in the ocean. That means
distances are going to be farther than they look type of
a thing you know so then I came up with the 15 miles.
So it might , it might be less than that. I don't know.
I just . . I've never had an experience like this before.
I have no way to calibrate or no feeling for wht's
happening.
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Okay, this is small fishing village.
promintory, a small, smaller . .
the way you spell it. And this
Distance sizes of thist I would
two miles. And this is maybe.
I mean . .
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And this is a
. . . . . . I think that's
is a mountain island.
say this is maybe . . .
. one mile. Distances
Okay, intersect. Oh, I was talking about size. I have
a good feeling for the size of the island much more than
I have for the distances in the open ocean. Okay.
Intersect is location of aircraft. Okay.
IRMW #6.5: What was that again?
#10.5: The intersect here is the location is the vicinity
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#6.5 I'm sorry, I thought that was where you said was your perspective
of where you were.
#10.5: Yes. That's where I was. I was over the aircraft.
#6.5: Oh so you were. Okay, fine. I don't think you made that clear.
#10.5: Oh, okay, all right. Now, to go back to the beginning of the
session. When I started, I was here looking from water level
at this island on the horizon. So that will be Sketch 2 is the
island on the horizon. Okay.
But I wanted to do Sketch I first before I lost it. So, remind
me that . . . well, on Sketch 1, let me do this boat thing.
I put my back to the curve of the island and I was looking out
in the open blank horizon. Okay, which I took to be out into
the Mediterranean, it was out into the ocean. And . . . I saw
something to my left front on the horizon and I said, Oh goodiel
There's another island; I'll check it out and I'll see where it is.
I started whipping across the top of the water, you know, and I
was catching . . was going to go up and check it out and get a
perspective and it was a damn boat. And that's where the boat
was. But, NOSEC has a merchant watch list. Okay. And maybe
they just may have whatever this boat is if its accurately
- they may have it on the watch list and may be able to give
a general idea of where it was on such and such a date and time.
Okay.
The thing is that that reinforced my feeling that this is some
sort of a major channel here, because this boat was steaming in
this direction and I felt that this boat was gonna hang a hard
right and it was going to go in the channel.
So . . anyway. I'll do a bigger one for that because I don't
have enough . . Okay, let me go on to 2.
Two is this . . . . This is the ridge line here it comes down
and disappears. Of the . . of this island okay. Okay, this is
an uninhabited end of the island. That's this island here, this
. . the one mile width okay.
This is the crescent. Crescent curve. And that's the idea
if you take this out . . . . okay. All right. That's the idea
you bring this curve around and I can just see over the edge
of it and I can just see how that curve starts and then disappears
into the horizon. Okay over on the other side of the island is
where the village is okay. But the only thing I can give you on
the island is that its a mountain island you know of
there are no features here other than this . . just general.
disappearing on the left and the curve on the right. There's
absolutely nothing else there. You know, no features or anything
like that on that blank side. Okay, arrow is . . . . . . . .
small fishing village on the back side.
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#10.5: Okay 3 . . . was this feeling of a sort of a panarama
I was in close. But we ended up with though is . . .
this shape on the island. The nice sandy strip before
the foothills begin okay. Nice sandy strip and here
is the fishing village type of a layout. Not very big
at all just sort of nestled on the beach. Okay, like
this. And. . . the feeling is that there's no harbor
here or anything like that. Its just this beach line
and they just pull the boats up on the beach. You know,
when the tide goes out the boats fall over on their side
and when it float, you know that type of thing. Very
primitive, very small boats, may only 20-25, 30 feet long,
fishing type boats. And I didn't get a look at the other
side of the mountain. Or the other side of the island
rather.
Notice that from this angle the mountain becomes wider
at its peak whereas from the other end of the angle its
more mountain typed okay. From the other end. You know
whaL I'm talking about because of the way that the island
is structured. And here is this little promintory.
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On the right end and this is the fishing village.
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Okay. Now where to?
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To the site?
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Let me label #2 here while you're looking. View from
target vicinity in ocean.
Okay. This is View from other opposite side of island.
Okay so that means then that over here is the target.
#6.5: Okay on Drawing #1 then, this freighter as you called it
earlier, where would that have been, off of that drawing?
#10.5: Out . . . Right. Again, I'm stuck with distances. It
would be off the drawing. What I was gonna do was draw
another drawing of smaller scale. Because the freighter
okay, I'll put a line on it then. I was standing like
this. I put myself right here with my back to the island
and the freighter was in this direction.
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#10.5: To freighter and what did I say it was Mistress Morning?
#6.5: Yeah, I wasn't sure-of the last thing that you said.
#10.5: Something. Mythress Morning. Or Mistress Morning or
something.
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#6.5: Okay.
#10.5:, I'll do that on a bigger scale. The boat. So this will
show. Because the boats, the freighters steaming course
was, let's see, about here is where the freighter was.
Which is a goodly distance off Sketch 1 in that direction
about 8 inches. But it was steaming along as though it
would come right by . . . .
#6.5: That'll get em.
#10.5: Yeah it was 8 inches. It was steaming along as though
it would come right by here. Right by the X marks the
spot. Okay, I'll do a smaller scale. Do you want me to
do that now?
#6.5: 1 was going to say, yeah, because right here X marks the
spot might confuse them.
Might confuse somebody.
#10.5: Okay. Let me get this thing so I can look at it.
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Okay and this dotted line Would come out somewhere down
here then . . . . . Like that and there's the island okay.
And the freighter was . . like . . out here. And its
course . . at that time, its course was. . its not saying
that it did it,.but I'm saying but that at that time its
course would have taken it very very near . . . . . . .
the position.
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Not precisely over it but very very near the position.
Okay. I'll darken this in then.
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Okay. All right.
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#10.5: Okay, freighter . . . . . I don't know, what did I call
tha't? THat's channel. Okay, distances then would be
this is like 15 miles here . . . . and the feeling was
that this distance. . . . was . 0 . . . Again, you're
stuck. The island stood up on the horizon because its
big but the freighter was'real tiny because its smaller
and it looks like and might look like it was farther away
than it really was. But . . . anyway regardless of all
that the distance is maybe 20 miles.
Okay.
#6.5: Okay.
#10.5: That's Sketch 4.
#6.5: 1 realize you were having some difficulty with the
channel area but can you have a . . estimation or a feel
for the distance from the channel to the X?
#10.5: They are about equal distance. But I didn't know that
until I got in the overhead.
#66: Yeah, you have to put it on, because when you play with
it with your fingers it makes a lot of noise.
#10.5: It was about equa-distant. That was the feeling I had.
Was that they were about the same distances. Looking
down at it form the aerial okay. About the same distances.
And X marks the spot and they make damn near a 90 degree
angle when the two lines come together. But I did not
see the channel when I was down on the water level. So,
because of that I would say that the channel distances
may be also 15 to 20 miles away. But . . okay.
#66: Would you also note that this spot here as being the
target area - aircraft . . . .
#10.5: Oh yeah okay. 15 to 20 miles and I'll say plus or minus
okay. And this is . . . Okay.
#6.5: Okay, tell me some more about the sea floor.
#10.5: Well, okay. It was on a . . . . . . . . . the numbers
1200 popped into my head when I was there okay. And I
. . it was as though it was at a 1200 foot level or some-
thing like that 1200 feet down. But the sea floor is
canted at that place. And at first I could not figure
out how the canting was. You know, which way it was.
You know which, you know what I'm talking about is which
way it went. 'Cause I'm just in some really weird
situation. It seemed as though the sea floor sloped
opposite the line to the island. Okay, what I'm saying
is if I was left braining it, I would say that the sea
floor goes up like this and in the distance. . leaving
going up to the island that way. But it didn't seem
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#10.5: It seemed as though the sea floor went up this way
where the aircraft is. Okay, it went up this way
so that when I looked at the island there was. . it
was like I was looking along some place and the island
was somewhere in the distance but was not associated
with this rising and failing of the sea floor okay.
Which would be the feeling now . . .
#66: You've been doing a lot of talking with your hands there
and just for clarification on the tape I'd like to say
whdt you described is the ocean sloping floor is perpendicular
to that of the island.
#10.5: Yes. Okay. You take the target to island line at the
point of the *target intersection lines here the sea
Floor slopes upward toward the channel and downward
toward the open ocean okay. All right. So it slopes
up towards the channel area. It rises along the channel
target line. Okay, that's what I'm trying to say.
The . . I had the . . the aircraft, let me see, let me
talk about the aircraft first, okay. Was I had the
feeling that this aircraft had been there some time.
Okay and that it wasn't something new and bright and.
shiney, but rather that the.thing was pretty well covered
With crud and silt and was very murky and just, you know,
covered over almost. Okay, its not like something that
happened in a couple weeks ago.. Its like the thing had
been there a number of months and therefore had been
obscured you know in the silt and crap had gotten on it
and in it and everything else. The aircraft was dis-
sembled in the sense that the only real main imagery I
had was of a thing that was fusalage like and there was
only. . . the second was only like about 55 or 60 feet
long and it laid up the slope. . toward the channel as
though it had landed head. . nose first or something,
had dug into the silt in the bottom and then had come
to rest with its tail section lower than its nose section.
And that there were other big pieces of metal around
that were associated with that thing but that they were
like farther down the slope a couple hundred yards away
and there were some to-my rear a couple hundred yards
away and everything okay. Its not like . . . I did not
get the idea that it fell off the deck of some sort of
a boat. I got the idea the sucker crashed and of course
nearly self destructed on impact. That type of a feeling.
You know. I mean it wasn't Whole. It was fallen apart
and it had been there long enough to get all murky, and
gurky and gunky and everything okay. Murky gurky and
gunky - those are new code words.
#6.5: The water level at that point is approximately 1200 feet?
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#10.5: Right and I had this feeling that it was like 1200 foot
level. And that that was important. That that was some
sort of a level like if someone was to follow that 1200
foot line that that was the main distinction in that -
finite area, in that micro area the microcosm of the vessel
of the . . of the aircraft location, the 1200 foot was
important. If you went to the 1500 foot level you'd miss
it and if you went to the 1000 feet level you'd miss,it
but if you followed that 1200 foot level 50 yards on each
side of it you know up and down you couldn't help but
come across the thing. But even then you better look
quick. You know you better look close because its all
crummied up, you know.But-then metal detectors and sonar
bouys and things like that would do a better job than
#6.5: Okay. I have no other questions.
Very good.
#10.5: Very good.
Little PK there.
#66: At one time you said there are two ways to find it.
Now am I . . Do I understand you correctly. . .
#10.5: The boat was one and the geometry of the island and the
shore line was the other.
#66: Okay@ I just wanted to make sure that I understood.
#6.5: That's why I didn't ask any.questions, I was satisfied
with that.
#10.5: I'll do a sketch of the crash site. I presume you want
something like that.
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#66: We'd like you to spend some time looking at the map
here.
#lOo5: Okay, great, all right, just a minute.
This is a . . .
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I had the feeling of a tandom cockpit arrangement like
one where pilot and navigator sit behind each other
but still a rather-significantly sized aircraft okay.
But the gunk and everything was was buried down over it.
Okay. Its very very murky and everything. Its hard to
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to describe but his forward nose, forward nose, now
that doesn't make sense, a little redundancy there
for the sake of redundancy--- forward nose buried in
silt rest of a sea silt covered but laying or lying
down slope.
Now for the sake of our good analyst whoever he may be.
Two cock tandom on it. Okay and this is . . . were I to
draw . . Okay 1200 foot . . 1200 foot level.
Part. Part. Parts scattered all over. I had that type
of feeling.
Okay, you get this idea of. . I hope anyway, you get
this idea of . of an up slope. That direction channel.
And were I to draw a dotted line horizon across across
here, okay, this is the island, okay, like that...
Island is that way. The dotted line is water level okay.
Its like if I was doing . . . I was doing both at one time.
I was on top and the bottom simultaneously. I don't know
how I did it but I was looking at the island and standing
on the aircraft at the same time. You know, it was really
twisted. But anyway . . . . That's the thing I was trying
to way was the island line. Okay, comes here. Channel
line goes off to the left of the slope. And I had the
feeling like they were trying to put the aircraft in deep
water as opposed. . . They were trying to put the aircraft
in deep water as opposed to try to make it to shore. I
just had that fleeting thing like they put it there
purposely. You know what I mean. When all else fails,
you can't save the aircraft don't leave it in 50 feet of
water where everybody can get it, get it into deeper water.
#6.5: That's what Drawing #5.
#10.5: Yes I guess its 5. 5 okay. All right.
#6.5: Now what I'd like you to do after all this has been done.
I'd like to have you look at this map that we have. We'll
introduce this for the first time.
#10.5: Okay, I didn't know you had a map, this is going to be
interesting.
#6.5: This is the US Air Force Aereo Space Planning Chart.the
specific name is USARASIA, ACSIA. Oh, you're way over
here. Fold it back up. Whoops, excuse me.
#66: The question is here, as you look at this map, do you
feel like you want to look and fit your descriptions
or do you want to try to do some sort of rectering
exercise?
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#6.5: Or to choose-to do nothin.g?
#10.5: Or to choose to do nothing. Right. Because the proof
is in the pudding guys. Bow out now. I had the distinct
feeling that I was at the Dardanelles. I even mentioned
it okay. -The Bosporus or whatever the hell it is.
And that Turkey was nearby.
Its interesting to note there is a little island there.
I . would have to say that I'm right. That I am
let me see let me look elsewhere.
Before I go and jump. My first statement is I'm right
at the second L in Dardanelles on this map okay.
#66: Will you point to that for us.
#10.5: Let me use a pencil without marking it for the next guy
but right above that L right there. Where this line comes
down and intersects and that line would come in and
intersect and somewhere alongthe very upper part of the
second L.
#66: This being the island that you described and this being
the channel?
#10.5: No. This being the island I described and that being
the channel.
#66: 1 see.
PAUSE
Now (mumbling - not audible)
#6.5: Well, we'll just zerox a piece of this thing here and
then we can label it for them afterwards.
Okay, very good. Thank you very much.
#66: Anything you'd like to add.
#10.5: No. There's nothing else along that area there that
looks like it would be . . . ahh. . . . wait a minute!
yes. I want the flag of the freighter. Because when
I was asking myself . . . . the . . I was working on
the freighter, I want to draw the flag of that. I really
feel strongly about that. I sort of . . . . right in the
session, I had the feeling that I was right outside
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that right the hell outside there.
#66: Good.
#10.5: Okay, let me do the flag.
#66: That's Drawing 4 where you have the freighter and
you can put (not audible).
#10.5: Okay, I'll do that.
PAUSE
Some sort of a star or starlike device, possibly like
the vice being like that, I don't know. Something
like this. Because it was the only method I had
you know, looking at this damn boat, you know, its
just like all other boats, its got a black bottom and
a white-top and its got . . . its got a orange anti-
corrosive paint all over it. and everything. But it
was definitely a freighter. I had the definite feeling
of these big spars sticking out of it okay.
PAUSE
Okay and there's blue in the thing somewhere a light
blue. Its . . . There is this blue like
this water blue h;re' and* Ii don't know if its blue field
0 . the star is white. The star is definitely white
and there's a blue field associated with it. I hesitate
to say its the background to the star or one of the stripes
okay. I've also got four stripes there and there's only
supposed to be three. Sorry about that that could be
misleading. Some arrangement like that with three stripes.
But the triangle and three stripes and device in the
triangle is the essence and I had the feeling that.
you know, I used to work Panama, I had the feeling like
Panamanian registry or something like that, but that
could be just left brainy. I . . . you know. Could be
Lebanese For all I know. I don't know what the hell their
star looks like - their flag looks like. Okay this-is the
this is the nation. . nation of registry. That's
@he' important thing to . . . which of course if like
. . that's like narrowing it down to two haystacks, I
know it, I'm sorry. Its like narrowing it down to two
haystacks instead of four nation, countries of registry
because you know, its a big false thing anyway. They
register their vessels in various places. There's yellow
there - I mean this blue.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Yep.
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