Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : QA,-RnP96-007138ROO0500490001-4 INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY:MSG~DAMI-ISH DATED: 051630ZJUL78 NOT RELE S 0 0 N TIONALS REVIEW ON: Mrw &L)~Q 0 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00 -01MI&PL, - . Ccr~i I ,,~ --a cx_-~ Approved For Release 200go - j* 6-00788ROO0500490001-4 %...F W1 1%" 1 t% SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59 1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in compliance with a request for information. 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the remote viewer. NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000j-,-n'=f 'El ~M.0788RO00500490001-4 %W4 I- wom, T - - - r Approved For Release 209NMAMVO~Vnr ~112-00788ROO0500490001-4 ~.J %J I X L. I TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59 TIME #14: This will be a remote viewing session for 22 May 1981. Mission time is 0900 hours. All right #07, the time is now 0900 hours. The targeting information that you need to access your target for today is contained in the sealed envelope that you have in your possession. I want you now topsychometrize the envelope that you have. I want you to use the information from the envelope and go to the target today. I want you to use a time window of 1200 hours local time, today's date, the 22nd of May, at 1200 hours. Go to the target. When you're there describe the general area. Relax now, relax, focus~ concentrate, describe the target. #07: 1 saw...immediately a...I think it was a map of a long, uh.. regular body of wder. A dotted or a dashed line-running curved, slightly curved pattern towards the river. I think it's a river.. Some mountains to my right. I still don't see the target, just ... just a map ... just a map. #14: Okay. I want you now to focus on the target. I want you to go to the ground on the target. Describe your impressions surrounding you ............. #07: 1 don't know what this is but ... it reminded me of conduit, uh, flume, um ... big tube... Roughly in this valley ....... Okay, I seem to be on high ground ... looking at low ground, uh, to my north, to the north.. There's not many trees. Some kind of complex over there to my left.. It's a big truck..a big truck. There's about-six or eight guys around it. #14: Describe the truck and the activity ... #07: That's about the size of a..deuce and a half. I think it's got a..1ooks like a van body.... #14: Describe the people. #07: Look like, uh , troops some kind. got piss pots on. A greenish OD.. Some guys..guys standing around, uh, older, strap hangers... Some type, some type of equipment... #14: Tell me about this other equipment. 06 1 r. Q M COX Approved For Release 2000 ;p-L~..Wqr-%K=*-UU788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 2000/0 S-EIDRU00788ROO0500490001-4 #07: Just stuff that fits together ... goddamn .................. Damn if I know.... Funniest thing, I didn't think I was in a war zone but somethin' sure as hell blew up.. There was... right where I was there was a big explosion.. #14: Describe your experience. #07: All hell blew up.. I thought somebody fired on us but.. all of a sudden I was under all this rock and this crap.. Once I realized I could handle I started lookin' around to see ... see what was going on... My guy's up there near that truck-didn't even dive into the foxholes... I don't know, I felt like I was covered up real deep..a lot of rock. Musta justa been..I don't know.. But...guys over here around the truck are still just doin' exactly what they were doin' it looks like. #14: Okay. #07: You know, the excitement you know. I don't see any smoke or anything. #14: What did you see? #07: 1 saw pipes and iron and..nothin' blew up, it's okay. #14: Okay, I want you now to- #07: 1 donl.t see anything anyway. #14: -to move above the area in altitude and tell me, describe what is below. #07: (Mumble) over to the right.. I think I'm looking north. Other than that there's a ravine over there to the right. My guys over there to the left, a little higher ground then falls off in a valley.. Straight ahead, to the north... bumpy and bumpy, rugged hills over there to the side.of the valley ... Really not very interesting. #14: Do you perceive any other activity at this location, of significanbe? #07: You mean right- 100 yards or so? #14: Within this five square kilometers ..... #07: 1 see a repetition of bumps over there to my right-laid out like artillery positions. The revetment seems to be... seems to be opened towards me. #14: Is there anything in the revetment? 2 Approved For Release 2000/dBEC,4~6ToO788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 200W,,,,,,.- 8ROO0500490001-4 8 #07: Oh, I don't think so, just kinda model smooth if it is it's a..camouflage nets. Want me to go by and look? #14: Go look. Describe the revetments. #07: Well, there's a towed piece in this one on the left..and the damn thing's pointing to the northeast... There's a..I get a strongest feeling that there's only one other of these positions. It's occupied. There's a...uh, just a minute. I don't know what to make of this. I got a..I got a mine there, a cave or somethin' here... Back there to the east therels..down in that ravine -there's three things dug back in the hill. Could be artillery, I don't know. #14: What other perceptions do you have about this target or the activity taking place here? ...... #07: Five clicks? #14: You do not have to limit your perceptions to five kilometers. You are free to cover a much broader area as it pertains to the, target ................ #07: Way over there to the west .... thirty, forty people come in a close formation. I think it's some kind of training. They don't seem excited or anything.... They seem to be ..... This is weird as hell ... I'm seeing rain..and a lot of people with umbrellas up, in a group. It-makes no sense to the scene I've been looking at ......... #14: Okay, I want you to relax. How would you describe the nature of this current activity?... #07: You mean the very broad scene here, the umbrellas, the truck.. The only activity I saw was troops marching calmly..whole slew of umbrellas in the rain. And a truck with a few people. #14: Very good,,very good. #07: 1 didn't see any other humans milling around. #14: Okay. At this time I want to move you forward in time. This will be the only movement in time we have on this project. I want you to move one week. Remain at the target location. Focus on your target location and move one week in time to the 29th of Mayt 1981. 1 want you to relax, focus on the target for the 29th of Mayt 1200 hours. When you're there describe the activity on 29 May. PAUSE 3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 2000/agffllr"r^-MVCMn788ROO0500490001-4 %JL.%J IN I ~ I - #07: Ah, hell... Somewhere around in here..further I think to the east, maybe the northeast is a bunch of tracked vehicles and a..in a protected valley. I don't feel any N"aw, big excitement, I saw three or four troops walking around between the vehicles which are all oriented in the same direction that's to the west. Around near where I was I saw similar vehicles with the real tall antennas with guy wires-stabilizing 'em.... Other tracks were-looked like some kinda tanks. But I don't see anything exciting that.. is contrary to the status quo.. #14: Okay. How would you describe this tracked vehicle or tank? Is it anything that is familiar to your memory? #07: At first at quick glimpse I got of one of 'em near that guy was..I got camouflage nets, you know. #14: Is this, is this equipment camouflaged? #07: Yeah. Whole goddamn area is pretty well covered. Looks pretty good, too. I thought at first one of the tanks I recognized as a, looking American, and then behind and to the right I saw a couple more that had some squarish angular things on it up near where the turret was and I thought it~might be some kinda SP gun, I didn't recognize it. When I tried to look closer at it it just blew up on me, it just disappeared. You were talking just then, I..was up under the-the bow of one of lem looking up at the tube. It was NNUP11" the thickness in the tube standing out beyond the mantlet. I can't place that. The glacis plate was fairly ... fairly smooth and uncluttered ... crescent shaped..rim... Made the driver's hatch level rather than sloped. Oh, I got it right here right now. I'm sorry. Shoulda told you... I got the wheels or somethin'. Oh, okay. I don't recognize this thing. #14: Okay. Don't, don't spend a lotta time on that. I have one last question. This is a very general question. I want you to access raw information. When I ask you a question, when I'm finished with the question, give me the raw impres- sions that you received while the questions being asked. How best would you describe the level of activity with this operation? For example, would you describe it as training or other activity? #07: Training. I can tell you the status quo, alert. But not panicky, just aware of their purpose. No stated alert, just conscious of their purpose, maintenence of..of readiness. #14: Okay. I have no further questions. At this time I would like you to come back to this room,. to the present time, 22nd May 1981. 1 want you to take a deep breath, stretch your arms, stretch your legs, unfocus, and we'll take a pause at this time. Approved For Release 2000,1QC.CM` -UU 88ROO0500490001-4 7, - a.... V.V I 1'%LU.Pq Approved For Release 2000/aJ0-rdDV1hF'Qr" rnn788ROO0500490001-4 'Vall..Wi v -r- #14: All right. We're going to turn the tape aver at this time. #07: Okay, what do you want? #14: Uh, an overview- #07: Overview. #14: -of the situation on today's date, the 22nd. #07: Okay. #14: In other words, a composite of the map that you'd seen and the truck with, you know, with the men. Kinda how they were located to everything else that you perceived. #07: That's funny. Now, you know when I was on the ground I didn't see that river. I think I know where it was, but I didn't see it. Right, for now ............. #14: Okay. Uh, are you drawing one that- is this on the 22nd or the 29th? #07: Twenty, uh, whatever today is. #14: Okay, today's, okay. Be the 22nd of May. #07: 1 don't know over in here was..fields up to a settlement over in here somewhere... I had the- over in here somewhere.. artillery was ... was in that direction.... There was some- thing over here other than the troop. What the hell was it? Toward the west. What the hell was that? ..... I can't remember what it was, but I saw something to the west of the troops and I can't remember what it was... Uh, okay, there was hills, rugged country over there, rugged country this side of the valley, uh, the valley here. And somehow I feel there was a river along over here. #14: Okay. Why don't you, uh, put an arrow and a label perhaps, to the river and the village or settlement that you had..... #07: UM ........ #14: Okay. And the, uh, the situation on the 29th. You mentioned, uh, artillery positions camouflaged. Would it help to draw those now? #07: Wellt it was pretty complicated but, uh, it was a deep ravine like area that leveled for maybe 150-200 little ravine valley like thing. And the seemed to me like it was almost from high ground. You know, from the top it looked came down then bumpy across and then high the other side. /ards across a camouflage sure ground to high like the slope ground again on Approved For Release 20Cr%X7P1=^^ Mr=- 30788ROO0500490001-4 %.;; " , vj,i, vc. wr Approved For Release 200gchff Qg=-00788ROO0500490001-4 #14: As an inter- #07: Then I found myself underneath the darn camouflage netting~ and the netting,was up a good 40 feet off the ground on a telephone pole. #14: As an analyst, if you were looking at imagery or something of the area, would you say it'd be very difficult to discern any activity? #07: I've always thought I could see any camouflage. I found myself wondering if I could see this if I wasn't so close to it. I felt like I was flying over about 100 feet above it. And at first I just saw some tanks and vehicles got cuts of it here and there. Like I was flying past holes and I'm seeing holes through it and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see it, could not focus on, stay on. And then I realized I just getting flashes of it here and there. And then I managed to get down underneath. The, uh... I don't know, one thing I looked over very carefully was, uh, the front of one of the tanks. And the...I can't remember what the mantlet was shaped like. I'll draw that separate but the ..... I haven't worked, uh, worked the table in a long time sow--that may mean something to you. I donit recognize it. But the.. I remember... I don't remember how the... I noticed that there was a..a tapered rise to make the, uh, cupola hatch, uh, lie level. And this, this was just down, down slope side of the, uh, front glacis plates. #14: You had a very, very down sloping, long glacis plates? #07: Itq it, I don't know what the angle was. I didn't think to observe just what the angle was, but, uh, it was steep enough that they had put a crescent curved crescent shape of metal to, uh, an the front side to make the, uh, hatch level. And I would examine that very, very close up and I, uh, I didn't get a good look at the tracks. I was gonna scoot around the right side 'over there and look at the, uh, look at the tracks and wheels but s6mething happened and I juzt didn't get to do it ....... Okay, crescent shaped ring, uh, filler ring used to, uh make the hatch level. And this may give something here, I-don't know. #14: Is there any way that you could..I'm asking only because I'm not seeing what you saw on the 29th. But would it be possi- ble to give a map like rendition of the 29th, uh, generally where the positions where you saw the tanks and the artillery and- #071.- I'm just guessing as to directions. 6 Approved For Release 200 9;Q f--r CxiXLN&pli-%%L.jr-lpr-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 200C; in E0 M %~XILNLNWAILAIII w1r-J0788R000500490001-4 #14: #07: Did you have a handle on this truck that you saw on the 22nd? The location of the truck in relation to the- Yeah, I thought the, I thought the tanks, I didn't see 'em in the scene, but I had a feeling they were to the northeast. PAUSE #14: #07: I don't know. I thought the tanks were back up in here somewhere. And I thought the netting was stretched from slope to slope. Sure like to know where the hell that is. 1 have no further questions. can add to- Is there anything you feel you No. I don't think so. #14: The overall feeling, you know, now that the session is over with- what type of scenario, as far as activity, level of activity. I know I asked you during the session. But, uh, that called for an analytical reply and that's why I waited until the last part of the session. #07: In two or three places in the session it felt real good to me, uh, the viewing. There was great clarity. In between there there there was bit 's and pieces of all kinds of things flying by that had little or no meaning, uh, not to what I felt the situation was. Uh, oh, I know what the thing- excuse me- people with umbrellas, uh, raining, people with umbrellas off to the, uh, west there. That's what that was. Okay. We won't put that in the map. Uh, that was very clear and very strong. I don't know whether it had anything-todo with it or not but I dumped it just in case, I don't know. Uh, I didn't feel excitement in people that I saw. Uh, I didn't feel anxiety, uh, I felt, uh, it was pretty much routine, but still very much aware of why they were where they were. Very much aware of the purpose that they were there. As opposed to wished they were somewhere else sort of thing. They were calmly excited~ but not any feeling of imminent hostility. That Is the way I felt about it. Main- tenance of training posture. Uh, maintenance of staying on the alert. #14: In other words it was an alert type status, but not imminent hostility. #07: Not an alert that it came down officially that people are takin' turns out on the line. No* There was a higher than normal feeling of alertness as opposed to troops say here at Fort Bragg and troops along the front border where hos- tilities could break out. I felt that whoever it was there was near some area that had a potential for outbreak. Uh, as opposed to type of maintenance of training and discipline that we might have say at Fort Bragg. 7 Approved For Release 200r, rw%-Q in M r~ 0788R000500490001-4 ~"~L:.Wrv ~ S7'AX^-1'7Vn788 R000500490001 -4 Approved For Release 2000/0'=~A *,~ Lzx-,~ I - x -F #14 Okay. #07: 'Bout it. I'm gonna put the umbrella- -4%W01' #14: Okay .... All right. No further questions. End of session. C% a= r-% f-- Approved For Release 20001WW, %pV%FWjt-00788R000500490001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 TAB 11 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Rele ~/011 0 /0W07 Cl -RDP96-00788ROO050049 01-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-0 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 V 41 :4 he V%- 4% % t I 1% 1~ V '~ ii Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 (n t ~~5 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 - . TAB 11 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0500490001-4 Approved For Release 20ew^^-.19W%:lGJJAZW96-00788ROO0500490001-4 TARGET CUING INFORMATION REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59 1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to this session the interviewer was given the attached targeting instructions and a sealed envelope containing a UTM coordinate which identified the target location. 2. (S/NOFORN) During the session the remote viewer was asked to access the target, using the targeting data contained in the sealed envelope, at 1200 hours on the 22nd of May 1981. He was asked to describe the target area and determine the level and type of activity at this location. The viewer was then asked to move forward in time to 1200 hours on the 29th of May 1981 and des- cribe the activity at that time. NOT RELEASAB 0 FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2 6-00788R000500490001-4 0 (UT Approved For Release 20W!~.D;-j F4frRQP6-00788ROO0500490001-4 L. V rN - I 7"HIS SA,!Ie7 11"e 11-e? fee t, ~7 10 -17 /L P7 /V I// ~61 le Y) - &7-,)C)/? 7- 0 /J 19 /v y(M t 1-,,17 /'1 0 ~,S CW V 6-7-D, -6PUFWW. t64W Approved For Release 20 k P96-00788ROO0500490001-4 I