im Approved For Release 20001084T- ABU 96-00788ROO0700330001-9 P U'16'U11 ILL I INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY: MSG,DAMI-ISH DATED: 051630ZJUL&* REVIEW ON:-.Juv% ~:-002- NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS PT' LoVjj-AME Approved For Release 20 f"**A-RDP96-00788q0UA 111161 0/ 44 jq -7 f:) , -..,* -e a Approved For Release 2000/01'WCIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925 1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in c-ompli~~nce with a request for information. 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence data, and as such have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of during the remote viewing session. At TAB A provided by the remote viewer. Target cuing envelope containing two photographs. At TAB which were in the envelope and shown to the session. the viewer's impressions are drawings and narrative information was a.sealed B are the photographs cemote viewer after the NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Releas ~r-o."-:PA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 Approved For Release 2000/4 NIER~P96-00788RO00700330001-9 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925 #66: This will be a remote viewing session 0900 hours 15 June 1982. This will be a pre-session briefing now to the remote viewer. At.this time, I call.your attention to an envelope containing two photographs of a target building. These are the same building, but are taken at two different angles, so there may by two different perspectives from which we see the building. Your mission for today will be to focus your attention in present time bn the buildings in the envelope. Having not seen the pictures, of course, you will, at the end of the session, be asked to rend drawings,,.sketches and descriptionslof the buildings. #01: Building, right or buildings? #66: One building, yes, one building. So that when I show you the pictures of the building, it will reinforce your feelings about having contacted with the target. lt~- will also be necessary to investigate the building itself. And I have several questions prepared to ask you about the building, once we have target contact. So this morning, we are concerned with describing the target buildings and exploring the inside of the buildings to respond to the questions that I have about building. Do you have any questions at this time? #01: No. #66: All tight. Let's prepare then for today's session. Relax and concentrate now. Relax, relax, relax and focus your attention s6lely and completely on the target building in the photograph in the envelope.... Focus in the present time on the building in the photograph and describe the target to me. #01: Get a..slight "C" shape building, almost rectangle. Two stories, maybe-three stories, see a flat shelf like extension out around the second floor, seemed to be evenly spaced, vertical lines, on the front. Double glass doors. #66: Go through the doors and describe. #01: High, square,~~open foyer, counter straight ahead. Getting a lot of.reflection, marble in reflection, white walls. This is an entry foyer. Approved For Release .%CLgn[;A-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 Approved For Release 2000/ml~'- ~OBP96-00788RO00700330001-9 #66: All right. Sit down in the entry foyer and wait. #01: Something cluttered to the left. Squared staircase, open vertical lines, black. #66: All right. Are you alone here in this foyer? #01: No. Groups of people busy, apparently,.sQmebody wearing gray suit or gray uniform, like counter, corner of counter. #66: Describe his activity to me. #01: Standing, hands on belt, wearing heavy belt for some reason, like uniform. He's stopping people from going through a small barrier. #66: All right. Stand there with him. Stand there with him. #01: 1 guess checking badges, I.D. card type things. #66: All right. Now, move out the entrance you came in, move out of the entrance you came in. Move up' and away to the oblique and now we are going to use your special vision to provide a doll house perception of the target.building. Now as you look at the building, with your special vision, Isas a doll house, seeing all the floors, all the rooms, all the stairways, all the walls, all the people, all the activity. As you have discovered this building, of -importance in this building, is security. The concept of security is important in this building and as you are up and away ~i the oblique, able to perceive all of this building, let your mind drift from security to the concept of vulnerability. Vulnerabilities are far and ranging, can be people, can be procedures, can be structural. Stopping back from the building, thinking vulnerabilities, describe the present vulnerability. #01: Too structured, everything was done the same time, same check, same time. Everything is locked up the same time. No variance of schedules. #66: Describe exploitation of perceived vulnerability. #01: Just a minute. #66: Waiting. #01: See a ...lack of, lack of separation between the power junction boxes and the internal phone system, no filters, no filters on the phone system. See no flexibility-in the security, too rigid. Breeds false sense of security. 2 Approved For Release 20OWK, 4amP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08 gr&Rj 96-00788R000700330001-9 JJU US M61 #66: Raw data. #01: Saw mental checks by guard just seemed to be too rigid. memorized check lists...he just, no understanding for threat and susceptible to, like double layered ploy, hand quicker than.eye type maneuver. -Just rigid. I think phone lines are susceptible, without gaining entry. #66: Raw data. #01: It's clean phone lines all the way through building. No internal phone filters...Also people entering are subject to having devices implanted on their person, on them anywhere. This guard is too rigid, it's like no imagination, no understanding of threat. #66: Focusing on the present time window, search for present exploitation. Itol: Keep going back to phone system. Kbep seeing saft-tone in the service type, service type uniform, like cleaning people or something. #66: Describe the activity of this person. #01: Carrying device in and out, including the up limits. Phone system susceptible, near power junction, see it at the end of a hall, left wall, end of hall. #66: All right. #01: And there is like closet, where, a service closet , something. Think it's cleaning crew type person. #66: Focus on this individual. Approach this individual and determine what he hopes to gain? What is his goal? #01: Any knowledge of, knowledge of some surrepttious-planning, illegal planning, sudden,feeling of controlied basing of illegal activity. activity not generally done from this building, some kind of control and planning. #66: Describe for me , the area from which you would get this information. #01: Specific person's office. #66: Describe his office. #01: Impression of tall ceiling, very small office, maybe lOxl2, wood paneling. Just a minute. Very light, light shades, very light curtains, high windows, carpett leather chairs. Got, not a very important person, but_~has control.~ authority. - Approved For Release 200ognow- DP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 L&i nnrv P. ;1 W-WT9 Approved For Release 2000/08/0 96-00788ROO0700330001-9 #66: Ask yourself as you stand in this office, ask yourself, how might I discover this exploitation? #01: Just a minute.....I got some kind of decorative handle on box here, cabinet, also keep following edge of rug for.some reason, edge of carpet, dead center, back of seat, cleaner, it's going away-change, fastest defeat is to change office,..change cleaning crew and tear old office apart. #66: All right I have no further questioas concerning the target. Take a moment to review in your own mind the perceptions you've had concerningl~the target and feell:now to explore the target and comment as you see fit. #01: Need, building needs innovative, innovative security. Someone's not afraid to upset the system, break things,. orders too rigid. It's to be disturb. That's all I have. #66: Okay, fine. Let's prepare now to draw the perceptions you've had. SEE DRAWINGS AT TAB A Approved For Release 20nrArigM~riT-PDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 UUU11116 I Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 I TAB I Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/ - A-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 n - 11Z I DRAWING NARRATIVE REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #925 #01: Okay, Page G. This is my perception of the building. Remember saying it was two,maybe three stories. There rhight-be a third story on this. I don't know what these vertical lines are. I don't know if they're supports or if they're some kind of decorative thing. And I'm not sure if I got them all in there or not, I'm just representing the vertical line. Felt like all the windows were high up, so put down,window~~. -high. There's the entry door, the entrance is sort of rectssed and it's some kind of reflective material in the doors, they may be metal 6r they may be glass. It's a "C" shape building, but resembles a rectangle, this "C" kind of indent is in the rear of tHe building. Page #2, 1 perceived this to E) an entry foyer like area, When you come in the doors,, 4irectly to the front,is some kind of counter with a, we'll put down "P" for person, behind the counter and there's a door on the right that was closed. There's some kind of low railing or gateway on the left, that just swings both ways and on the other side of that is, what I circle a "G" and call that a guard. And immediately passed him is an up stairwell on the second floor and a hallway and everything. And that's who you have to go through to gain access to the rest of the bUilding. #66: Okay. Almost immediately in the session here, you perceived that there was some so .rt of security control on the building. #01: Yes, this guy is not, I don't perceive him to be a uniformed type person, but he is a guard type person, security type person. And he is very rigid and very formal about his security duties, which makes him very susceptible to, you know, this hand's faster than the eye, sort of thing. It's like he "A-reads his rules and regulations daily and follows them to the letter and that's the easiest kind of person to bypass,'Cause you know what to expect from him, you knoll; you can use slight of hand on this kind of person and that sort of thing. #3 is the hallway, I feel, for some reasonlfeel like it's at the south end of the building, whatever that means. And then there's an outside exit door -that's always locked. First door inon the other side of the hall, what I call the left side of the hall, is a door which is like a utility type closet, but inside is all the power and phone switching boxes and whatnot. And it kind of surprised me to see that Lhere's no filtoration system or anything on the phone, so you wouldn't even have to gain access to this room, to do any kind of manipulation of the phones. Approved For Release 20utuaMtLuTeRDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/ 96-00788R000700330001-9 #01: But.gaining access to this room would be a real joy, because you could latch in any office or any phone in the-entire building. Number page #4 is a small office, what I described as a small office.,, with a desk and easy chair and the things of importance here are, I forgot to put in edge of rug, where I put an arrow for the edge of.rug, the decorative handles on the cabinet towards the face of the office, and the rear of the seat back, for some reason. And this is a very small office and it's curtained at one end, which I labeled curtains, and windows very high up, call them high windows. And I felt that the only way to defeat anything in this room would be to just take the person and his papers and move him to another room and then just dismantle this room piece by piece. #66: Okay, now this room that you've done in #4, comes to your mind when I say, this person who is exploiting or may exploit or has the ability to exploit the vulnerability~ the security vulnerability here, he would go after or seek out information from this room. #01: This room, right. #66: The room drawn in #4. #01: Right, exactly. And I also feel like this is on a second floor, so I'll put in. #66: Okay. #01: And the information I feel like they're seeking is, this, building is here for a purpose, but.subliminal to that purpose is some form of illegal organization or some organizing of illegal activity. And this person,"'Lhat works in this office is in charge of that organization. And that's why this person would be targeted. #66: Okay. #01: That's his real job, incidently, not to support the real purpose of the building's existence. #66: Okay. Now, in your impressions of the target building, what is.the largest or most overwhelming impression that you go away with in -this morning's session? #01: Some kind-of-2o cal front type building, you know, it's __4~kti I . a political front. I can't, I don't know what to add to, thaf.-_- #66: All right. And when I addressed.the security problem and what is the vulnerability this building.may have, I'm trying to keep it secure, what is the vulnerability? Approved For Relea'.0f"177Z CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 U186 Wig ILM I Approved For Release 2000/08/04 wl-00788ROO0700330001-9 #01: The biggest vulnerability is the cleaning crew. And I just get an impression that, and it's not so much the people in.the cleaning crew, Okay, as it is the implements they're carrying in and out. You know, like if I was going to target this building, I would supply them with their cleaning implements and they would not know that they were carrying my collection material in and out, or my collection devices in and out. I would provide them with, you know the broom handles -that they're going to lay up in the side of the utility closet or they're going to cart around with them,trash can liners, that kind of thing. So that's a very big vulnerabilityg because that's, you know the most cursory checks of the cleaning equipment and also the second, what I consider probably the most vulnerable,,is' the phone lines. You don't even have to get inside the building to hit these phones, the entire phone system in here. #66: And you had talked before about procedurally speaking. #01: Yes, it's too rigid. There's no innovativeness in the security. It's like they have a set of secure rules that they follow. And observing and recording those rules and coming to familiarize yourself with the rules, you would find ample opportunities to do the, you know, the slight of hand tricks against these people, that think they have, it's like, they believe more in their security thain it really is. I don't know how to explain that. #66: They have a false sense of security? #01: Yes, a very false sense of security, because they're following their rules for security tothe letter. When in fact, just the lack of innovativeness,-for instance, if I was to guard on-this post, and the cleaning team was carrying in their stuff one morning, then I would surprise them by saying, okay, put all your cleaning stuff over there, because this new cleaning stuff over here is what you're going to use from now on. Your not going to take it in'and out anymore. Then.I would take their cleaning implements and cart -them off and.tear them down piece by piece, and check them outs1hat kind of thing. I would also change the personalities,' of the people, not change the personalities, but change the people, so I had different personalities working different jobs, continually, you know, that sort of-thing. I don't know, there's just some complacency here about the security. It's like, Be on there from 9 to 5 doing my secure thing, and...Ilm.making my bucks everyday and I'm keeping my head above water and I'm not getting.caught doing anything Wrong, or allowing anything wrong to happen.. Just that kind of c,omp:la,c,e11cy,- you know, there! s no drive there, to prevent, so to speak. Best I can do. #66: Okay. Is there anything else that you would like to add about your perceptions about the sesdion today? 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Slight "C" shaped bldg, almost rectangle. Two stories, maybe three stories. See a flat shelf like extension out ary~ound the second flo Several evenly spaced, vertical lines, on the front. Double glass doors. High, square, open foyer, counter straight ahead. Getting a lot of reflection, marble and reflection, white walls. This is an entry foyer. Something cluttered to the,left. Squared staircase, open vertical lines, black. (;roup of people busy, apparently somebody wearing grey suit or grey uniform, by counter,-at corner of counte Standing, hands on belt, wearing heavy belt for some reasoll like uniform. de's stopping people from going through a small barrier. Iguess checking badges, ID card type thing. Too structured, too uhh, everything was done the Same time 3ame check, same time. 7-verything is locked up the same time. TARGET ELEMENT 10 0 r/ TOTAL- ~T FOB IAN Approved For Release 2000108107 : CIA-RDP9j-00788R00070033000 Approved For Release 2000108107 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 UTTER PT OB 16 1 17 21 24 26 27 28 UTTERANCE CONCEPT AN 15 No variance of schedules. Just a minue. See a.. lack of, lack of separation between the power junction boxes and the internal phone system, no filters, no filters on the phone system. 18 See no flexibility in the security, too rigid. Breeds fal,~ie sense of security. 19 Saw mental checks by guard, just seemed to be too rigid. 20 Memorized check lists.. he just, no understanding for threat and susceptible to, like double layered ploy,, hand quicker than eye type maneuver. Just rigid. 22 1 think phone lines are susceptible, without gaining entry 23 It's clean phone lines all the way through building. 1140 internal phone filters. Also people entering are subject to having devices implant on their person, unwittingly. 25 This guard is too rigid, it's like no imagination, no understanding of threat. Keep going back to phone system. Deep seeing someone in t service type, service type uniform, like. cleaning people or something. Carrying device in and out, including implements. Phone system susceptible, near power junciton, see it at t end of a hall, left wall, end of hall. nved Fgr Release 2000108107 : CIA-RDP96 Ap 1P 29 And there is 1 e closet, where, 2 service closet, sDme- e thing. 019&R~Hq -rpw TARGET ELEMENT d 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0788R0007003300011 ~' ~TO T TOTAL F ---T- PT1 OB AN Approved For Release 2000108107 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 UTTERAt PT OB 31 32 33 34 35 36, 37 38' 39 40 41 42 43 44 45] UTTERANCE CONCEPT RGET ELEMENT M TA r- L 30 Think it's cleaning crew type person. Any knowledge of, knowledge of some surreptitious planning illegal planning. Sudden feeling of controlled basing of illegal activity. Acitivity not generally done from this building, some kindf of control and planning. Specific person's office. Impression of tall ceiling. Very small office Maybe lOxl2, wood paneling. Just a minute. Very light, light shades, very light curtaLns. High windows. Multicolor carpet. Leather chairs. Not, not a very imprtant person, but has control, authori4 . Just a minute.. I got some kind of decorative handle on bcK here, cabinet. Also deep following edge of rug for some reason, edge of carpet. Dead center, back of seat,,cleaner, it's going away. 46 Change, fastest defeat is to change office, change cle2nirg crew and tEApp`T!UdV-6ffK& fffl"se 2000108107 : CIA-RDP9E -00788ROO0700330001 r TOTAL T 08 AN PT Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 ER4N DE I OB I AN-] UTTERANCE CONCEPT TARGET ELEMENT 47 Need, building needs innovative, innovative security. 48 Someone's not afraid to upset the system. 49 Break things, orders too rigid. 0 50 It's to be disturb. That's all I have. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP9q-00788ROO070033000 ~~MTA7 PTI 6-BT7AN Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0700330001-9 ERANCE r 1~ - - ANf CQ Oj z~~jf- TOTAL PT -- OB AN I UTTERANCE CONCEPT TARGET ELEMENT 0/ 1~11 ~"b - -- - "$,**PT =OBAN I -I- I -- I X,~ Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP9q-00788ROO070033000