Approved For Release 2001/03/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 0 R A F T MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Minutes of the Grill Flame Committee Meeting, 14 Feb 79 (U) 1. (U) The Grill Flame Committee meeting was held at 0930, 14 Feb 79. 2. (U) Attendees: Dr. SG1 I MAJ Mr. COL SG1 I Mr. MAJ Mr. Mr. Vorona, DIA Stoner, ACSI Kramar, AMSAA De Prospero, AMSAA Graff, AF'FTD Watt, INSCOM Green, MIRADCOM Dailey, USDRE 3. (U) As a result of discussion on access to GRILL FLAME information, a master list of Grill Flame Committee representatives was established (Incl 1). All information should be sent through agreed-upon security chan- nels to these representatives; secondary distribution in each organization is to be determined by that organization. 4. (U) The goals and objectives of the committee as agreed to by the attendees are attached as Incl 2. 5. (S-ORCON) Dr. Vorona reviewed the briefings presented to the House Select Committee on Intelligence on 13 Feb 79 by himself and Hal Puthoff and Russ Targ of SRI as well as the discussions that followed. One of the primary concerns is the level of funding for SRI. Up through 31 March 1979, the following monies have been allocated: $100K from FTD $115K from AMSAA $ 20K from DIA Beginning I April 1979, the following monies are proposed for allocation to SRI: $ 75K ACSI/INSCOM/AMSAA SG1 1 $ 35K $75 to $100K MIA $ 50K DIA $10OK AMSAA or "' 27sq A.IMSAYPP @R pro4oc 2 0 6 *'@_ Z-1 - @RD 3 Approved For Release 20 -RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 Congressman Rose recognized the critical financial situation of the SRI program. In response to Congressman Rose's inquiry as to what the Com- mittee could do, Dr. Vorona commented that a strong letter to DoD should remove the reluctance of some people to deal with the subject of psycho- energetics. 6. (S-ORCON) In addition to further discussions of optimum funding levels for SRI (400-50OK/year), other outside sources of the capability as well as ongoing and proposed in-house programs were discussed. 7. (U) It was suggested that the next meeting of the Grill Flame Com- mittee be scheduled for the end of March 79. 2 04, "V TOO* Approved For Release 20 -RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 Approved For Release*, l~ICIA-RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES MIA Primary: Alternate: ARMY ACSI Primary: Alternate: AMSAA Primary: Alternate: Randy Clinton Charles Carter MAJ Bill Stoner COL Jack Capps John Kramar COL. Albert De Prosperc SG1 I FTD Primary: Dale Graff - USDRE Primary: Dr. Ruth Davis Alternate: Lowell Dailey Navy SG11 Primary: Dr. Bill Mehuron Inclosure 1 / A-R ,,,@137oved For Release 2MM DP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 1179 AINS i% li INSCOM Primary: MAJ Scott Watt Alternate: ILT Fred Atwater AIR STAFF Primary: LTC Michael Bloom 'Approved For Release 2001/03-/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 9 (S-ORCON) PROPOSED GOALS FOR THE GRILL FLAME PROGRAM (U) a Scientifically investigate accepted potential military aspects of psychoenergetic phenomena. This would include remote viewing, com- munications and psychokineticmodes. These efforts would involve only willing and knowing participants and would exclude the use of'drugs, hypnosis or other artificial forms- to alter mental states. 9 Develop suitable scientific experiments and evaluation metho dologies for conducting and assessing the results of these investigations. @ Investigate significance of foreign technical and military psycho- energetic efforts' assess potential threat posed by these developments and identify countermeasures. (S-ORCON) The Working Group will: * Respond to approved requests for fnformation on psychoenergetics. a Act as a clearinghouse for exchange of information and tech- nologies among DoD particfpants. a Appoint a subcommittee to monitor protocols and ensure compliance with. the legal aspects of the program, Incl osure 2 A _@oved For Release 20-1.... @-RDP96-00788ROO2000130002-5 now I URWA 4 17" 19 7 9