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     MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
     15 Nov 79
       SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME DOD Science Evaluation Team Update Briefing,
     9 November 1979 (U)
     1. (U) PURPOSE: At 0900 hrs, 9 Nov 79, LTC Watt presented an update
     brief-ing to the GRILL FLAME DOD Science Evaluation Team. The briefing
     was given in the DCSRADA conference room, Pentagon. The briefing had
     been arranged in order to provide the DOD Science Evaluation Team a
     summary of INSCOM GRILL FLAME activities since the 27 Sep 79 initial
     brief.
     2. (U) Following personnel were in attendance:
     a. DOD TEAM
     Mr. Manfred Gale, GS-18 (Team Chief)
     Laddie Stahl, MG (Ret)
     Harry Holloway, COL
     Frank Cartwright, GS-15
     Douglas Tang, GS-14
     Richard Montgomery, Consultant
     Dr. Jesse Orlansky, Consultant
     Dr. Harry Snyder, Consultant
     William Stoner, MAJ (OACSI)
     b. Briefer: LTC Watt
     3. (S) Following topics/subject areas were covered:
     a. Brief overview, including # of sessions (195) to date.
     b. Training at SRI.
     c. New trainees.
     d. Operational Tasks
     (1) A6E
                                        SG1A (2) CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
     DECLASSIFY ON: 15 Nov 1999
     EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
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        SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME DOD Science Evaluation Team Update Briefing,
        9 November 1979 (U)
        (3) Project= SG1 B
        (4) Cuba situation.
        (5) Korea situation.
        e. Individual capabilities.
        f. Future objectives.
        4. (S) COMMENTS:
        a. Overall, I thought the team was attentive to the presentation.
        However, in my opinion, at least 2/3 members were very negative in their
        comments in that they really didn't listen to the briefing and their
        questions so indicated that.
             b. The feeling I received was that my word was no longer valid
        since they had classified me as a "believer" - whatever that means
        and, therefore, I could not be objective about the program.
             C. I feel, very strongly, that just the opposite is true. That is,
        that some members of the team don't want to believe that psychic behavior
        exists and refuse to really listen to any presentation on the subject
        matter. They find it very convenient to put "labels" on people and
        summarily dismiss them without fully discussing the situation.
             NOTED:-
        CHAD B. WHITE
        COL, GS
        ADCSOPS-HUMINT
        MURRAY B.CWhTT, LTC, MI
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