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    DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
    US ARMY INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY COMMAND
    5-1, FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, MARYLAND 20755
    IAFM-OPS-l'U-SA
    MEMORANDUIM FO'R THE RECORD
    SG11 SUBJECT: Visit of 15 Nov 1979 (U)
    16 Nov 1979
    1. (U) Purpose: To outline the significant points of the visit of
    SG11 to this office on 15 Nov 79.
    2. (U) Permission for the visit had been approved by COL Capps, OACSI.
    SG1 1 3. (S) visit was designed to provide him with an update SG1 I
    concerning the INSCOM GRILL FLAME Program. @ had been one of
    CIA's action officers in the early 70's in the field of parapsychology
    SG11 (especially Remote Viewing) and although CIA has not had an active
    program in recent years has been permitted by the agency to
    keep himself fully informed on the latest developments in the field as
    involved the U.S. Government.
    4. (S) We spent the better part of the day discussing the INSCOM
    program. Especially interesting was to receive first-hand insight into
         SG1 I some of the problems that and CIA faced in the 70's because SG1 I
    of their involvement in parapsychology. noted that his
    credibility is still an issue with some folks, even some of his co-workers,
    because it was decided that he was a "believer." He cautioned me that in
    the days ahead that my credibility and those involved in our program would
    become more of a critical issue. He saw no way to prevent it but cer-
    tainly felt that we should@be aware that the issue could become a serious
    one.
      SG11 5. (u) asked permission to brief those in his chain-of-
    command concerning today's meeting. I denied his request based on prior
    ACSI guidance and informed him that only SG11
    were cleared for GRILL FLAME data at CIA as -fpr as I know.
    6. (U) then asked about the feasibility of the INSCOM brief-
    SG11 ing being given to his superiors. I informed him that I had no
    objections to his proposal but that he would have to send a message to
    ACSI requesting approval. He indicated that he would do so.
    CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
    DECLASSIFY ON: 16 Nov 1999
    EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
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        IAFM-OPS-HU-SA SG1 1 16 NOV 1979
        SUBJECT: Visit of 15 Nov 1979 (U)
        7. (S) We informally agreed that I would visit him in the near future
        to review a study that CIA had accomplished concerning their prior in-
        volvement in remote viewing sessions. The study contains a proposed
        method/protocol of conducting remote viewing sessions that could be
        very useful.
        8. (U) All agreed that the meeting was beneficial to all parties.
        MURRAY B. WATT
        LTC, MI
        INSCOM. GRILL FLAME
        Project Manager
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        CHAD B. WHITE
        COL, GS
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