To: File ubject: SI and R Experimentation, 3 October 1951. s On 3 Octote 5 r 19 the writer conducted experiments in s I a!3@i 13. and -5A 2 havior o and n view of the,controversial be and their post it their straight work ase again pkoceed along standard lines and continue the experimentati -lni;@Lvi g.these.individuals. It was also agreed 2 that since -ad reached a much greater depth and a more consis ce, she could be used as a balance against the a@'tivities of the others. The first tlsltrqd was a very slow routine induction ihto an SI state by ith a iinple post hypnotic. In this- test, apparelht y a in uals werc2 successful and to all outward appearances, obtained adeep slecp state and responded to the post hyt)notic suggestion of sleep. This test involved approximately fifteen minutes of time. The second test was begu e subjects placed in a deep SI state and thereafter @old her eyes and proceed while asleep wit 2pw -ro Room 3 while the other subjects main ined their sleep s tn. on- n(-c@@. '@i the*-miliLiD-rL-Qf the writer and both es s that--, -.-i'len she left the room, a la'Tu-rther be noted that both an 2 -stated that they had heard the instru hough theyhad been specifically conditioned not to he r ame by t a writer. en proceeded with Mes to Ro m an s m. was there given sleip instructions and ost hypnotic instructions for approximately 20-25 minutes. In ad- dition to the instruct' r 2rding sleep, the post hypnotic sug- gestions were g' en. discovplr what block iv, mechanisn wa3 interfe complete carrying rin wii@ out of the SI instructions. Tll e w ot entirely successful and whereas both 144essrs elt that they had made soiie progress with her acti ties still appear to be controversial and err C. During the period th2 s wit in w nd nd Room th.@.write bwa _r__remain t@at 2 after ,,-,--parture aw ened them. It was e r seve simple P03t h with --i-tpr would try ral lly lid R and in these efforts, 2 as ustia on, nly pa tially so. In succelssf f anU9 it appea s th I is progressin a tha actions are que tionable p rticularly as far post notic 2sug- gesti:ons go. It should also be noted that 'the writer felt again that as engaging in some "play acting". A ok return and after a brief discussion, all p Were a laced i 2 en trance and this 'timt-- - - 414 e 0 Om 3 whi' :7. -"Mmww- remainecl WITiLl the Operat on 2 elieved, went to the-, other room (Room 3). it is b in ce 3 ealthough this cannot be.positively d(-,ternined. flo,,iever, upon Rrrival in Room 2 and upon instig,@@s @all im- mediately asleep, shq did s2pecifically this. writertried numerous post hypnotic sugges n In general, these were successful ltliough d66s" ot react in the normal imanner ts ra i6nalizati'Oh for all acts in whi2cb -ages. Both and tiie writer observed tha.t en she attempted to reach "normal' activityll -ated the.impression of 'Iplay actin,,",,,D .Oc the tim OW.nd the @irte working primarlivqywwwitti' a cleep SI state in both subje as successful with her eff ts ag ties were. controversial. After perhaps 15-20 minutes of 2 such efforts, allsubjects were assamb led again in the Operations Room, placed under SI, and all post hypnotic suggestions were removed with precautionary instr-tictions given. COIISNT: The @@ork did - the questions con- 2 cerni nd Both again acted in a cogzroversial ma ne arently are engaging tional or otherwise. 2cting" whether uninten n the other hand appears to have developed a 2 for the SI work as demonstrated in her very high redord in the post hypnotics, etc. ove, it is obvious that both d 9 ill require a great deal of n"t e#n ve e f@r e ave reached a true somnambulistic out advanced experimentation. state and can carry