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     22 June 1974
     MEMO FOR THE, RECORD
     SUBJECT
     Discussions with OTS on the SRI Project
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          1. OOB Ops Testing. On 27 June 74 1 met with of OTS
     to review with them their protocol for testing one o the SRI subjects in an
     OOB 'viewing' of a Soviet target; the substance of their proposal may be seen
     in the attached draft. Though many other aspects were discussed, the only
     points made by me which touched on our basic research interests may be summar-
     ized as follows: we'd like to have EEG, GSR and plethysmograph monitoring of
     the subject during the trials (OTS felt that such instrumentation might obscure
     or interfere with the initial trials but agreed to work them in at a later stage
     should there be any positive results); the OTS personnel should prepare a memo
     detailing all their own factual knowledge of the Soviet site before they go to
     SRI for the tests; in view of the subject's relative incompetence with drawings,
     provision be made for him to construct models of what he 'sees' out of lago or
     similar materials; that all his models, drawings, transcripts, etc, be sent to
     NPIC for evaluation before the OTS personnel go to SRI and are exposed to the
     subject. On 18 July--7T- and myself (and others)
     on the outcome of the Since the detaiied evaluation will be pre-
     pared by OTS, it is sufficient here to state that: for practical reasons., none
     of the above suggestions were implemented; though some of the details of the
     subject's perceptions of the target seem impressive, the overall results were
     mixed at best; and I strongly urged that the scoring of the results
     be related to the total stimulus field (based on NPIC photography) rather than
     focus merely on the subject's specific 'hits' and Imisse 's'. Recognizing that
     scoring on that basis would provide more valid statistics on the subject's perf-
     formance, OTS felt that such exhaustive analysis could not reasonably be asked
     of NPIC.
          2. SRI's Performance in re Basic Research. On 27 June 74 OTS was given an
     advanced copy of my 17-18 June SRI trip report. During the 18 July meeting, in
     response to the criticisms contained in the tri re ort and the allusion to the SGI
     possibility of terminating the project, asked for more details
     on our position. After reviewing SRI's spotty performance thus far, we stressed
     that we had explicitly told SRI that they had to make significant progress with
          es t to the five items listed in para 5 of the trip report by mid-August.
     " stated that he would send SRI an official letter covering those points so
     that, should termination eventua be necessary, our case would be well-docu-
     mented. It was agreed that would make a prolonged site visit
     soon after the mid-August meetings with the SRI representatives in D.C.--either
     to monitor the continuing research (if acceptable progress has been made by then)
     or to gather evidence for termination of, at least., the basic research portion
     of the project. Other alternatives, such as allowing SRI a no-additional-cost
     extension to complete the basic research tasks, were also discussed.
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