Approved For Release 2002/11 'ftMMDMff 999AO00400050011-4 TSD/BAB MEMO #323-72 2 August 1972 MEMORANDUM FOR: Chief TSD/BAB SUBJECT ESP 1. Attached is a copy of a letter vroviding some bpck- ground on the ESP caper, which I mentioned to you. It wrs S G 11 given to me byl the engineer in Applied Physics Branch who is in touch with Dr. Puthoff. sc- 11 2. briefedi who was, according to SG1 sc- 11 very excited about the whole thing. He encouraged i I S Ito pursue it, and plans to come up withF_ I SG1A @ of D&E money to fund some additional *xperiments by Puthoff. SG11 3. has also been in touch with Life Sciences Division of DDS&T, and reports that they have a very active interest in the ESP field, and have been collecting data for some time. They had heard of Ingo Swann and are interested in following his activities. According to they Plso SG1 1@ said that they have a consultant who reports to them phertom- ena in the field, and that a number of Government agencies - S@l H are now getting involved,7 spi 1 4. and somebody named from Life Sciences SG1 11 are plan trip to the West Vbast on 11 August, when they will meet Ingo Swann and have a chance to watch him flex his sphincter. He invited someone from BAB to join the group. I took the liberty of sayint that we would be a little thin an personnel during that ttine, but would be interested in hearing what happened when he returns. Fi- nally, he mentioned that Life Sciences Is planning on ' forming a "coordinating committee" to work on ESP and the data that is coming in, and they are saving us a slot on the committee. SG1 Ii7X 0T,, 3 5 Ta -AB CLASSIFIED BY - EXF1',,PT FRO@ I GENERAL pc;_LAMF@ATION SCHFALULE, OF 1- 0 11-1:2, DA-r-HIPTiON CATEGORY: 5D(l t3,: ;;7 (111 (cade one or more) '@E_"U_K51FIED ON (unless 0 WARNING N 0 '11 C E 2002/11/13: CIA-RDP _00999fk@ffl*-AQff1MJ1iA@,,r.'E SOURCES CONFIDENT& AND METHODS I@JVOLVED Approved For Release 2002/11/13 CIA-RDP79-00999AO00400050011-4 'STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE Jime 27, 2 972 NIENLO PA$7,K. CALIFORNiA 94025 At tll@-- of f@tvzscll Tar,7 I :,m ti I 10.1 tl-@ I I Lory involving onc, i vn--n 'IrL i 5 L .To iziir PhysicL.,'t -1* SLI lu c, ':nysolf, I im a -j @-o--iuthor of "Fuii,,Ilam,@nt.)ls of O@mlitu,r. PanLell alld Ptltlloff, -, 1,'i1c-V publiCatioll.. Throw@h sc@!!@(- nrivaLc corresT)onetence 1 2- ion f r. im Dr. Cie I- t r u (;(2 1; c I@c, i. @-t i c- r a t ci x v co 1 1c @g, eN 'icy 11.1.1 dore @zw ,_. ex!)c r i, 1-3 in t1lo Dc 1,:14o:. 1, 11go sw,@nz,., a man -aci cone sm:-.- rathur labcra*1@)i-,*, lnclu(un.@, raising i-iu iw-@@ring L tlicr,aisLors p"incc-6 scTr-, distance from his bc),-1y. liomilig Jat to Lh( lc',est. coa--,@ iU %vas sug-zestcjd th@IL T 1; 'ji llyssicist wit'l Sensitive Ith hi.-11 in an c.,perijaent ur two. i aaroed and invi*-,ecl, i Tn @o In order Lo climinatc, t@ie possibility of Lrici:cry Z o i an .v:icre if tr.'.-1;Lry wore rill, 11 1@@ arly as import@-.nt as any @Lrcc@. h(@ could At :,@o suggestion of Dr. Little (Stanford Physics Dep,, .) 1 tb use the superconductor siliciciod manotomoter 1),-in@, u@@oci 4n Itiark expcrimentz@ of Dr. A--thur llebbar(l, Stanfort.l. m@ignetometer i4; located in a we--- in th(@ Variar P1-Vsi('-'; i@ shielded by an nluminwr con-,..-Iner, coppor shiclch-n@-,, an@',, ij@lportant, i supr-rcond*uctnf1 cannister. Dr. flcbh@@rd i 11 LUStS With llll-ge CIOCtl'o,111,21,-nots no sicnals lhav,@ h,,:en inO.Lic" 1 t "rom the outsid(!, T'@O ma.-.11 is )4 t 1@0 SQUID varict".. i Prior *.@o t1to experi-inc--nt a decaying iimgr,@tic ficial up inside the ma,.-,nctomet(-r. and its steady docay %vitlh ti:,.ie ai bac I.,', rOL!(111. F Approved For Release 2002/11/13 CIA-RDP79-00999AO00400050011-4 E: J 1% NF. @j, .1.1 EL-) Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999AO00400050011-4 BEST COPY Aval"lable 6/17/98 Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999AO00400050011-4 9,620021111t3--: CIA-RDP79-00991WOMMS0011-4 Approved For ReW 't of the calibration neid. i,i,,o J_ for sorncLliin@@, on the order of an hour xitb no n o c@ . ln@@O was the setur, nlid *,olci that if l'o, were to affect the magnetic fielcl in the mal-rictometer it would show up as a chaiige in 11ho output recordin--g. fie thon placed his attention on the interior of the magnetor.,@eter (his description) at which point the frequency Of the sine wave. doubled (S@@o outptlL), or rou-.1-Ly W @_OCCIICIL. A@. ""M ,:,-in im.t@,jne, wero quiLCI amazed, and Art then saicl, iL's roi@;e-ii v,-ould really be somethin- if you could stop th.@: sine %vat'n Ingo proceeded to do... 1:11, -1 JuFt- L at, as can be Soo. i 11 tho 1*01' n period of roughly 3.0 seconds. Ift' t1len "Iet -0, nt hich point the Output returned to normal-. We tshcd hin-. to dvs.cril)c hk, lind donc, and lie explained that lie could see the apparat"Is and that lookin.- at different parts crcatcd thc offect. As he lescribed !11.tt, !,;C, xas doing, the rocorcliiil,, ti,nced nui. I cvcle 1@ liid pccurred originally (doubl--i@ frequency). A rather pcetiliar dip @_In the ecording, took place then, and upon him -Is to vllat .%@;Is lie snid br'_@v,as looking it n part, the niobium ,sittin- in t cup which %-,,,-is inert for now in tbo -.-Aa --ne t Ollie L C', r @ienL (it is used in tho quarl@ oxporiTadrit). We asko(! him, to refrain @rom tlunkin,,@ I , :,bout the apparatus, and tho. aormal pattern thon traced put for several minutes while wo cngap-od,him in conversation on other .5 ubjec ts. At one point lie started to discuss tho ifia,,,,,ne@omotcr -,a1n, it %vhich point ',:lie tracin- wont into a high i"requency pattc.,-rn. A L 6ur requ-st no slopped, and wo terminated Chc obse..,,vation as iie a s t,ired from his offort. I'le then left the lab, anct Art 14@bbard t`-.en qonti-nu(,6 to run. the apparatus for over in hour ,vilh no trace of riois:o activity. At various time,,; durin,-, this and 110110@1,,iil- (!a.: %%-herc similar data werotaken, the (_-xperimcnt was ,!)served IY nuilierolis t--raduate students, and also by Dr. Little of the Pir'-sics `1 epartirientj and by Dr. Martin Loc, from SLAC (Stanford Linear Acce lera tor) , t1he desi-grier Of the electron storage rin'g. An int-crosting side light of the expar.Lii,,ent was that ingo %;,-as ble to describc- rather well what the interior of the device IoUl@od ike, apparontly with some form of direct obsorvation. I ar'.1 C!Li-ite ortain Lhat lie xoxild not have had I chanco to lool@ at a di,11@11'1r@ eforel,.:ind, as lie did not know that wo were, --oin,- to use this _n,-trticular iece. of ripparatus until we arrived in the laboratory. At this point I wish to state that I consider this an observation, t a controllc-d experiment. There -ire variables I would @Mnt lo ock if we naa time and ilioncy, such as whothor it was the recordin.- Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999AO00400050011-4 Ain pMedFwLRelease 2002/11/13: CIA-RDP79-0099SAGOMOO50011-4 ..-t,uld be tested by a (4, 1@2ct of @Ll;"- ".@pal"'ItIls from the rocordin,-, equipment to see i, :,o recardin', would continuc, to cjjan@le oti command. There is riot much more that can be said about the observation. .If further %vork were to validate the observation, the iI-,.T)Jicatjn-n-z@ re to Sly 1,110 least. lloweV,@J', -@;pecUlat%, I think it is nocessary to rumain cautious '1116 try to nrrari,,@,-o f0i, ir:,ro 10 I'OtUrn frOM the E@ISIL CO,1St IIILI to perforw goille caref III ly-co:1trol led (,xperiments to see wl'other the phonoi',icna contillue to hoid uiicll.---r rigorous ar-id well-defined conditions. As a postscript, we did try to repeat the temperature using a 111) CILI.'II'L/. thermometer and did grot variations 1'(J'(:L;CQt,@C!. Ifowcvcr, Lhe environment v.,as not well controlled, so I consicle-r tl'ie @ experimc:nt suggestive but inconcl"Isive. If vou -.vish information on this or have any su,.@,,e@tioils pleaso do riot hesitate to contact me further about this matt'--r. With best regards, Dr. 11. E. Puthoff Senior Roso"Irch En--illcer Electronics and 13ioengineoring, Labor,,io@:ry 13 1 d @- . 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