Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 ALYSIS OF A EXPERHUNT OF URDF-3 ANTILYSIS BY: TYPEO By: DECEMBER 47 1975 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R00020-0040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 SUMMARY bjed The remote-viewing experiment of URDF-3 by proved to be unsuc- cessful. This conclusion was reached only after a careful review of the tape recordings, tape transcripts, and sketches that were generated during the four- day experiment. S During the first day's session,M. 1) accurately described the location and type of target (that information had been given to him by the experimenters) but failed on the layout' and types of buildings, 2) 'saw a gantry crane for heavy lifting, 3) tended to spend too much time on specifics only to say, "I'll come back to that," but seldom did, and 4) successfully evaded drawing a.perimeter of the area even though he was asked to do -this twice. Therefore, nothing positive to validate remote viewing resulted from the first day's session. S I W was contacted by phone that evening by one of the experimenters and was told to concentrate on the crane and its relationship to the dominant three-story building (Building 1) that he had seen during that day's session. He was also told that they wanted a drawing of the perimeter fence. On the second day, I& supplied the most positive evidence yet for the remote-viewing experiment with his sketch of the rail-mounted gantry crane. It seems inconceivable to imagine how he could have drawn such a likeness -to the actual crane at URDF-3 unless: 1) he actually saw it through remote viewing, or 2) he was informed of what to draw by someone knowledgeable of URDF-3. Approved For kelease 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000ibbo4oO'O2-1 W.. -PmT .1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18: CIA-RDP96-0 0791 R000200040002-1 2 The second possibility is mentioned only because the experiment was not controlled 0, f to discount the possibility thatimmcould talk %1-r, -othdr-@,Tpeo pl e. S1 S1 I commented that he was seeing a lot of things this second day that he hadn't seen the previous day. In fact, he filentioned seeing s-everal landmark- type objects that simply did not exist at URDF-3. One explanation of this dis- crepancy could be that if he mentioned Jeno4b specific objects, he would surely hit on one object that is actually present. This could explain the inconsistency between: 1) his most positive evidence of the experiment a sketch of a rail-mounted gantry crane, and 2) -the large number of objects he sees that, in reality, are simply not present at URDF-3. Thi.s discrepancy between whatem sees and what is really there certainly would make it difficult for the eventuai user of his remote-viewing data since he would not know how to differentiate the fact from the fiction. At this stage of the experiment, the data is inconclusive to validate Price's capability of re mote viewing. was shown a sketch of a perspective of the Operations Area at URDF-3 @ ', third day and was told that this was a §ketch of the actual target. 4@said he recognized the area but claimed that only one of the four headframes was present now. That was wrong, but his most damaging state- ments had to do with his interpretation of Building I (the underground build- ing) at URDF-3. With the sketch as a reference, he "saw" the four main surface protrusions of Building I as four separate above-ground buildings sitting atop a concrete.apron. He was. asked specifically whether these four @uildings he saw might really be the surface elements of an underground building. He failed either to pick up the lead or to remotely view correctly because he said, "No, that's a concrete apron., and there's nothing subterranean right in that particular .area.11 This statement was his most negative evidence yet and tends to discredit his ability to remotely view URDF-3. Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791ROOO~bOO40002.-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 3 Is comments on the fourth day were very specific regarding his concept of the overall operation at URDF-3, however no new evidence (that could be checked) was disclosed toward establishing validity for his remote-viewing capability. After careful analysis of all the data presented, I have concluded that U*1s remote-viewing experiment of URDF-3 was unsuccessful. 'Approved Far Release 2003/, W96-007-91 RO.00200040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 I am quite familiar with the chronology and layout of URDF-3, as well as the surrounding terrain and technical areas - "ith-in 40 miles. I tried to keep an open mind while performing this analysis, but if I had any bias at all, it was that I wanted to believe remote viewing could help us establi@h the true' purpose of URDF-3. INTRODUCTION I was asked to analyze and then judge the validity of the remote-viewing experiment performed on URDF-3 by The data to be analyzed included two cassette tapes covering the first two days, 79 pages of transcribed tapes regarding the third and fourth days, and 30 sketches-; I also revi.ewed the July 5, 1974 of URDF-3. Throughout this analysis, I paid particular attention to all information about URDF-3 that was supplied to This was necessary in order to evalua-01--e his originality in remote viewing. This study was done in four seg- ments corresponding to the four days of the experiment. Judgiment. of the perog- ress and validity of the experiment was evaluated at the end of each day. PTMZT nAv 4 The experiment started at 11 a.'m. on July 9, 1974 at Stanford Research institute (SRI). The'e'xperiment@ers (Russ Targ and Hal Puthoff) told that the target was a geographical target selected from the Times of London World Atlas. The coordinates of the target were given as 5009'59"N and 78'22'22"E; Slow wrote these coordinates down. It was emphasized that this was a "real target" as opposed to a sample target. Using several maps, the experimenters showed MR the target location at 60 miles WSW of Semipalatinsk. The target was described as a scientific military research and test area. To help orient S111M he was told that the target was 25 to 30. miles SW of "this river," pre- sumably labeled correctly on the maps as the Irtysh River. M was told to start with a view of the general area @s'seen from 50,000 ft. and get the layout of any complexes or buildings, or whatever. Approved For Release 200e0QJVA1f44*A-@DP96-:00791 R000200040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 5 When the coordinates were given,4116ib said he was getting a picture that they (the Soviets) have done a lot of rocket launching and recovery out of that area. As he starts viewing, he says it's dark over there at the present time, quite a cloud cover, and a full moon. He immediately sees the river and heads SW from the river to the institute (as he calls it).' He says the@ area he's look- ing at has low one-story buildings that are partially dug into the ground giving the effect (as seen at ground level) of very short, squatty buildings, whereas they are actually fairly roomy on the inside. This description could very well describe a first look at the Operations Area at URDF-3. He then finds that he is looking at a guy in a very peculiar type of helmet." He tends to get bogged down in the specifics of the purpose of this. helmet and shifts his attention to look at the cosmonauts (that were currently in orbit) to compare helmets. He says they (the Soviets) are running some tests on some equipment that currently has to do with their space program. Then he backs off from this specific subject and says, "I'll look around and come back to that" but he never does. was then asked to describe the general terrain and perhaps the building layout. He drew a sketch (Fig. 1) in which he correctly identifies the complex as being about 30 miles south of theIrtysh River (this information had been given to him earlier). However, he incorrectly says the road from the river passes through a gorge. The layout of the buildings and area they cover as shown in his sketch are incorrect for URDF-3. Although there are some an- tennas at URDF-3, none are as tall as the 500-ft. antenna he described. He pondered over the dimensions of the outdoor pool he saw because "that's in meters - they have it." He then translates it to feet (60' x 150'). He said they use the pool for underwater testing and orientation studies but in reality there is no outdoor pool at URDF-3. In Fig. 2, he drew a military complex three-eighths of a mile NE of the scientific complex shown in Fig. 1. Actually there is a military complex at URDF-3, located about 2 112 miles NW of the Operations Area, but this data was ApproveO For Release 2 $&NQ*RDP96-00791 R060@06040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 IN. ------- 01 40Mb 'two it J16 14 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CJA-RDP96-00791ROO0200040002-1 m%% Ttu Approved For Release 200 IA-RDP96-00791 R000200046-002-1 Is %"r Qz- r\ N. 00.200040002-1 Approved F6r.Releasef 7#0 @-RPP96-00791 RO .01,9dre .2. Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 8 given to him earlier when the target was described as a scientific military research and test area. He said the military complex looked like it had been there for two -to three years, when in fact it's been there for over a decade. Also in Fig. 2, he described a radar/com@unications building north of the scientific complex. The description of the,building and its location relative to the military complex fits the description of the probable laboratory-admini- stration building located about 2 1/2 miles northwest of the Operations Area at URDF-3. When.he is specific about what he sees'inside the building, one of the experimenters asks whether one of the specifics he mentioned might well be some- thing else. He takes another look and changes his mind saying, "'You may be right," giving the impression that he could be led to see what the experimenter suggests. The experimenter quickly informed (hat "we really don't know what this thing is," andwrepl.ies with, "I'll come.back to that," but again never does. st saw an array of telephone poles about 400 yards SE of the scientific complex (see Fig. 2), but there is no such array of poles at or near URDF-3. He was then asked to go up to 50,000 ft. to look again and describe the layout. Centering himself over the scientific complex, he scanned in a clock- wise direction; the view he saw is sketched in Fig. 3. Nothing in this figure is correct except that the area is arid and has low hills to the south. Speci- fically, he is incorrect in his locations of a small village, an airstrip, a cluster of pine trees, and a city 60 miles to the SW. There is, however, an airfield at the Main Support Complex 30 miles north of URDF-3. as asked if he saw a railroad anywhere. The closest railroad to lmiw the target that he could see was about 60 miles north running roughly NW and SE and he didn't see any spur tracks in a direction toward the target. In reality, there is a railway in the Main Support Complex (about 30 miles north of URDF-3) with a railway spur under construction down to URDF-3. There is also grading-for -a raii-lway 'spur- near. the military complex-at URDF-3. Approved For Release 1_1@g@ @.CIA-ROP9640791 R000200040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 4b C@I .,one% Approved For. Release 2005/0:Vl'8..LM-RDP96.-00791RQOO~60040002-1. F i g .'3.. Pik Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 I i F P-) BN T 10 ecame specific in looking at a scope trace at the airstr na claimed it made him nauseated. At this time the experimenters andm decided S1 to have lunch so $0 said he would come back to this later, but as he randomly elevated himself, he noted the area was under high security and had a cyclone fence. He could read the troop markings and buttons on a Colonel and then said he could come back to the security and military designations. In reality, the Operations Area of URDF-3 has 4 security fences, not just one cyclone fence. They stopped for lunch at about 12:14 p.m. After lunch, at 2:22 p.m., Id4p icks up with the scope-trace at the airstrip. He concludes that the trace indicates the pulse of someone who is nauseated - that's why it caused nausea in him. He was asked to indicate again where the telephone poles were and to map out the perimeter of the area. He drew in the telephone-pole grid with a circle of trees around the grid (see Fig. 2). There is no telephone-pole grid like this at or near URDF-3. Upon spotting seyeral low-boy @rucks and a gantry crane (for very heavy lifting) in the vehicle area (Fig. 1), Mwas'a*sked if he could tell 'Where they took the heavy things from the low-boy trucks. This question led him to a look at the area near'Building 1 in Fig. 1. He saw a sign in front"of the building that said something to do with Zone 4. He said he would get back to that but never did. When describing Building 1, he said it had three stories above-ground plus a basement with meteorological equipment on the flat roof and then looked .inside the building at the top floor. He started to get too specific as to what he saw inside the building and was reminded that the type of thing the experi- menters could best check him on was the outside appearance of the buildings. They asked him the dimensions of Building I and he had a very difficult time establishing them when he finally settled on 80' x 160'. He then described 'the other buildings in the scientific complex. He said Building 1 was. the dominant building due to its height and-central location; eve rything seemed to, pivot off of it. There is no building at URDF-3 that matches the above descrip- tion of Building 1. Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 st They decided to stop the experiment for the day but asked M to look at the target at different intervals that evening. (Due to the difference in time, all of his viewing during this formalized part of the experiment - on this first day - had been at nighttime locally at URDF-3). aid he was beginning to labor anyway and, "if you,start laboring at it, you start mocking-up things." He was then reminded that he was going to draw a perimet er, or would he rather save that for tomorrow. He said he would rather save that since he's starting tj labor a bit. It was unfortunate that they didn't pursue the perimeter earlier in the day because it certainly has a unique shape. They quit at 3 p.m. Summary of the First Day The controlled session taped at SRI lasted a total of about I hour and 52 minutes. It consisted of the experimenters defining the target as a 11 target" as opposed to a sample target. With the use of several maps, a st as given coordinates of the target and told that, iL was a scientific military research and test area about 25 to 30 miles SW of the Irtysh River. When the coordinates were given, li(i mmediately biased his thinking that this area was related to the Soviets' space-launching and recov- ery areas. Since this is not true, he may have inadvertantly and unknowingly biased himself into an incorrect target relationship. described the target as a military and scientific complex about 30 miles SW of the Irtysh River but there is nothing in this description that wasn't already given to him. He then gives what is almost a perfect de- scription of someone's first look at the Operations Area of URDF-3. He describes it as low one-story buildings that are partially dug into the ground giving the effect (as seen at ground level) of very short, squatty buildings, whereas they are actually fairly roomy on the inside. Unfortunately, as he later describes the specifics of buildings in the scientific complex, he never again ment,ions earth-covering 9f partial ly-buried buil-di.n-gs.. It seemed he had the perfect description of URDF-3, but never came back to that again. In fact, his later v, Approved For Release.2003/04/18.: CIA-RDP96-00791R00br200640002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 12 description of the most dominant building (a large three-story building) doesn't match any building at URDF-3. tends to get bogged down in specifics and then says something like, "I'll come back to that," but seldom does. He said the military complex looks like it's been there for two to three years when in fact it's been there for over a decade. At one point when describing the specifics of the "radar/ communications building," he demonstrates that he could possibly be led to see what the experimenter wants him to see. He sees some landmark-type items that simply don't appear at or near URDF-3. They are: 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) the road from the river to the target area passes through a gorge, a 500-ft. tall antenna, an outdoor pool (60' x 150'), an array of telephone poles surrounded' @.,! trees about 500 yards-SE-of the s@@-ientific complex, an airstrip on a plateau 12 miles NW of URDF-3, a small village NE of URDF-3, a city 60 miles SW of URDF-3, a cluster of pine trees west of URDF-3, and a three-story building (with a basement) as the dominant building in the scientific complex. It doesn't seem fair to grade him on landmark-type objeclEs he flailed to see at the target because his attention may not have been directed on them. However, it does seem fair to question the existence of those objects he claims to have seen. The most positive evidence of valid remote viewing IrDr the first day (1 hour and 52 minutes) was his init.ia*l view of the -target as "loii-one-story buil'd- ings that are partially dug into the ground..." UnfortunaIel_y, he never con- sidered that description again. The only other piece of pasill-ive evidence that day was his view of a gantry crane for heavy lifting. Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 ROObMW40002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 13 To summarize the first day's session accurately described the location and type of target (but that was given) but failed on. the layout and type of buildings. He tended to ipend too much time on specifics only to say, "I'll come back to that," but seldom did. He successfully evaded drawing a perimeter of the area even though he was asked to do this twice. This was unfortunate because the shape of the perimeter is unique. My conclusion is that nothing positive to validate remote viewing resulted from this first day's session. Additional Contact on the.First-Day Hal Puthoff talked to by telephone that eveding at 5:25 p.m. to give him further instructions for his scanning that night. He was told that there were some specific areas he had mentioned that the experimenters were most interested in. Speciflical)y he was asked "for an exact, as possible, drawing of the crane (that was in the rear of Building 1) and exactly what its relation- ship is to Building I." Further, they wanted to know 11anything about Building I in relation to the surrounding buildings, like whatever forms of connection or 4 communication or tran'sportation that exists between Building 1 (the main building) and the ones that are nearby." They especially wanted "as much detail as possible on the gantry cran.e and its relatio@ to Buil*ding I He was told that the second thing they were most interested in was the security fence around the perimeter. They wanted any detail on that - even a drawing of exactly what the fence looked like. It was emphasized that the crane was really top priority, especially what it looked like in relation to the main building (Building 1). c,Prn1\1n nay The remote-viewing experiment resumed at 11 a.m. on July 10, 1974. It was mentioned that the previous night had turned in drawings of a fence and a crane.5i@'s first comments had to do with an observation of the immense size of the gant@y crane. He said he didn't realize how large the gantry crane was until he saw a man walking by one of the crane.wheels. Assuming the height of the man as 6 ft., he realized that the dimensional data he had derived the day b6- fore was underestimated by at least a factor of 3. Approved For RWease ;~RpJW#,.k~IA-RDP96-0979!F~006100040002-1 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 1.4 He commented on the security fence as being electrified, but never men- tioned the unique shape of the perimeter fence or the fact that there are really four perimeter fences at URDF-3. Figure 4 is his sketch of a small sec- tion of the fence. was again told that the experimeters wanted more information on exactly what the relationship was between the crane and the major building (Building 1); specifically, how did the crane interact with Building 1 or any- thing surrounding the building. Wsaid the gantry crane interacted with Building 1, the outdoor pool and the telephone pole array. He drew a sketch showing the relative locations of buildings as he saw them that day (Fig. 5). He said the crane was so heavy that it left tracks in the around and that, "the crane tracks go to the building and where this sunken building is." Un- fortunately, the experimenters did not ask him to identify the "sunken building." This was important because in reality the gantry crane at URDF-3 operates on rails over a sunken building (designated as Building 1 by NPIC). AsI6 continued to look at the area, he said, "I'm seeing a lot of things today I didn't see yesterday... I- can see some very heavy... looks like railroad track, but they're spread much too wide so it looks like a riding gan- try." That description compares quite closely with one of the most distinctive observables at URDF-3 - the gantry crane that ope rates on rails over the three- story underground building (Building I at URDF-3). However, his description of the interaction between the crane and Building I is incorrect. He describes two gantry cranes that enter into his above-ground Building I whereas the single gantry crane at URDF-3 operates on rails above the underground Building 1. His description of this building is also wrong in several respects as compared to the actual Building I at URDF-3. The major dif- ference is that Building I at URDF-3 is an underground buiJding rather than above S ground a escribed it. He was asked, "Are there any windows in the build- ing at all?" At this time, he realizes for the first time that the building is actually five-stories tall rather than three-stories as he had originally thought. He saw windows on the second, third and fourth stories on the north side of the building and said there were no windows on the other three sides. The session Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 Approved Ft r,M1da1.td-2UQ3TCKM .0 JQODIR-@11-1 0 0 ,X4 1 /* pproved For Release 2004 -00791 R00020004-0002-1 &411.8ClA RDP91 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 16 zi 11 D to @3 Q to V4 IL Approved For Release 2003/04/ AIA-RDP@6,00791 ROOO 00. 02- Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 17 continued with discussions of the length of the gantry rails. saw weld- ing operations taking place south of.Building 1 and also saw an electrical sub- station east of the building (see Fig. 5). In reality there is no substation near the gantry crane or Building 1 at URDF-3. The session ended at noon. The session resumed at 3:01 p.m. with what appears to be a telephone con- versation between W and one of the experimenters. Although it's possible to hear only the experimeter's side of the conversation, the discussion appeared to be related to the dimensions of the gantry crane. had said earlier that day that: 1) the distance between the rails was about 50 ft., 2) the height of Building I was about 50 ft., 3) the height of the gantry crane was about 150 ft.,. and 4) the crane ran on the rails that entered into Building 1. The above dimensions lead to a discrepancy in dimensions because the gantry crane is too tall (150 ft.) to enter the 50 ft.-tall Building 1. This discre- pancy is resolved byartelling the experimeters that' the tall gantry crane does not enter Building 1 but that there are two shorter gantry cranes inside Building 1 that also run on the 50 ft.-wide ral ls - one running east-test on rails and one running north-south to meet the tall gantry crane outside the building on the same rail. This complicated relationship of three gantry cranes does not exist at URDF-3. is then contacted by phone again and asked to scan the area across the roa west of Building 1 (see Fig. 5). He is told that in that region there's something else which is on the order of being as large or as unique S1 as the crane. (The experimeter is obviously trying to see i can see the four headframes that exist at URDF-3). Note: there is an azimuthal shift the north-south motion of s tall rail-mounted gan4 of-90' in comparing try crane as opposed to the actual east-west motion of the rail-mounted gantry crane' at URDF-3. For the time being, if one accepts this.rotation of 900, the Approved For Release 2003104LIJ@COLAPMP 6-00791 R000200040002-1 .t9 Approved For Release 2003/04/18 : CIA-RDP96-00791 R000200040002-1 experimenter was correct in asking ft to look in the region west of Building 1 as shown in Fig. 5. Price was also reminded at the end of this phone conver- sation to continue working on a picture (sketch) of the tall rail-friounted crane that runs up to Building 1. -ween Russ The tape resumes with yet another telephone conversation bet 11 Targ an wi V, only the voice of Russ Targ being heard. W appar- ently reporte t at he saw a dome-shaped building (about 55' tall x 160' diam- @oWrtetha- eter) with its center located about 200 ft.west of th@.,-.$kiz orner of Buil,'_-Ing 1. He also saw a 65-to-75 ft.-tall cement silo-like building SOLIth of the dome- shaped building that consisted of three 25 ft.-diameter vertical'silos tangent to each other (see Fig. 6 for their relative locations). He confirmed that.' the swimming pool was west of both Building I and the silo-likle building, Russ Targ then concluded the phone conversation with a request for a sketch of the crane -,that runs on raills; specifically, Nh@t does the crane look like when it's cutside of Building 1?" Since h-,d gantry cranes (one about 150 ft. tall and the other about 50 ft. tall), he sketched both of them (see Figs. 7 and 8). Discussion of Sketches Drawn b@ The detail shown in Fig. is remarkably close in detail to the provides the most positive evidence mote viewing of URDF-3. Pat Price on the Second.Day 7, the sketch of the taller gantry crane, actual gantry crane at URDF-3. This sketch yet to support the validity ofm's re.- Figures 9 and 10 illustrate the cement silo-like building and the dome-shaped building. Figure 6 shows their relative locations to Building 1; however, there is nothing at URDF-3 that looks like the dome-shaped building or the silo-like building. In Fig. 6, these buildings are sho%@ i the general 9 . @ 41- L. location where, at URDF-3. a partially earth-covered tank and tall cylindricat shaped tanks or towers appear. The swimming Wo.],,4in Fig. 6) is in the general location of the headframes at URDF-3. 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