Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH 1w DATED: 051630ZJUL7B NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS REVIEW ON:11@ G, @4- 'FLA 'M/10: CIA-KDP96-00788RO 0 Approved For Release 20703 004 Q Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-25 SG1 B 1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote vieving session conducted in compliance with a request for information on a target of interest. The mission was to 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Vie-wing Protocol (S), undated. 4. (SINOFORN) Following is a trancript of the viewer's impressions during t remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor- mation provided the remote viewer. 5- (SINOFORN) This session was conducted concurrently with Session D-24. NOT RELZASABLF-.T"QR= NATIONALS r- F--V Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-25 TIME #66: This will be a remote viewing session for 0830 hours, 4 September 1980. Relax and concentrate now.. Relax. Relax and focus SG1 B mee PAUSE +04 #10-5: Looks like a ... round.at the top box ... like a loaf of bread ... Looks like a lorryoo***The sides are hard*.*****9&9e9* Got aos*ummoooolike a...I have a feeling that, uh, I am, +o6 uh, am like, you know ... the edge of a, uh ... shallow, uh... a ravine. And I'm watching the vehicles go over the edge, uh, you know ... moving on the dirt road. This, uh...go over the edge and ... and then go down and to the right. It's ... like a convoy. +08 #66: Describe the vehicles to me. #10-5: They are ... those that I've seen are ... lorry types.,ohavingg uh, snub-nosed front ends and...moulded (phoenetic) uh, round fenders. They're entering a wadi or agorge, shallow gorge**# It's, um, grassy here though. There are, uh... short grasses along the road. Itts like.asoothere are some mountains in the background, which is to the ... I think it's to the northwest@ and those mountains are very rugged and oo*barreno9o.o #56: Describe your position of perspective. #10o5: Now I am.o.up and, uh, over the lip of the depression... about, um, 100 feet and watching this curving convoy going down this ... clefto They are proceeding down theo..the gap. They go down it, in a southeasterly directionv or southern direction...more southern. If the mountains.are northwest this is more southo And they, uh.o.oo PAUSE +12 #10-5: 1 saw one tactical vehicle earlier, but now all I'm seeing is..oa string of these lotrieso It is warm, and it is dry. They are proceedingo..they move maybe, I don't know, it's Approved For Release 2001,01.1c 3ROO0400370001-8 Approved For Release 200,-MSTCJMVC-ir,--n788ROO0400370001-8 % L. #10-5- maybe only a quarter of a mile down the- this gash in the terrain. And they climb outosoand move on* In that, general southeasterly direction. #66: At this time move your perspective even higher and describe where this is in the world. PAUSE #66: Okay, we'll stop the session. #10-5: Okay, this thing is about...Ilve drawn it a lot narrower than it really should be in perspective so let me go over this. It's more like that fat, stubby, lorry type of vehicle. With a rounded top. Draw this thing again. PAUSE There, that's more like it. Love it, love it. Now that's more the size of the proportions of the thing. It's got the ro-, rounded, bulbous fenderst but it has a front that looks like the front of our old half track. It's the - wheet! (phoenetic). You know, it's very, very angular hood comes down in a triangle but it's got rounded fenders. I don't know if that's...you know. I know there's a goddamn fender here somehow. #66: Now you say that-you saw a, uh, convoy of these. And I eventually wanted to, when we, we're gonna get around to it in the session, to have you tell me about the size of this convoy. But we never did get around to- #10-5: Yeah. I was playing with numbers all that while I was quiet. It did not appear to be a large...large convoy. This thing is, well, okay ... let me see this is an OD lorry. That's one vehicle type that I saw. An OD lorry, ah, with hard sides and top. I had the feeling that this was similar to our radio van. Okay? You-know7 the kind that we have that ... on a five ton track the sides pop out and you end up with a command post and radio facility inside it and everys- thing. I had a feeling that this is like this. I, I thought of that when I saw this vehicle, because it was hard sides and had a curved roof. And st- it wasn't just canvas top, it was a hard top. And it, I thought...thought of... of our US five ton Command Signal van. Signal, uh ... what do you call it? Command signal, uh, truck. Okay? That was the thought that occured when I saw this thing. I'll call that one, and I'll go on and review that. I had a feeling, in the very first part of the session which was un-talked about until later was, I had the feel- ing of a armored vehicle, like a ... the old rounded top, and this was only seen from an angle on my left shoulder. 2 QZ;Q Approved For Release 201911-1 VWOMR000400370001-8 1%1;xz L_:_1 , 6 @ %- @ - . Approv.ed For Release 200--Atn/geft 88ROO0400370001-8 % #10-5: But it was only one.of lem, 1did not feel that there were a whole bunch of tanks in this convoy. I had the feeling like the tank was the lead vehicle and that behind it was about 30 of these trucks like this. Some...some soft topped, some hard topped, okay, of an assortment of lorry type vehicles. T-wo and a half to five ton lorry type vehicles, but that there was some sort of an armored escort at the front. You know. Anyway, I hadl uh*.*o***.*..This type of a feeling. Okay?.... *****ooo9***Ah1 well. The sooner we get it over and done with the sooner we'll ... have it over and done withoooo.** Okay. Anyway, here you areo.oOkay. This is the feeling, see. Like there was one tank like ao..an old rounded turretl sm@lloe*rounded turret tank. Like T-55 leadingo.o uh, uh, like it was in the lead. Because when I was up above and I was looking at this string of vehicles, had the, just @ort of the thing that, "Oh, well they got one tank up front, but it"s not really part of the unit." You know, it's just an escort, you know, clearing the road or doing whatever comes naturally, why they have tanks, you knowo Old, small rounded turret tank like T-55 leading... convoy. Okay. All right. So that's that. And then there are other vehicles back here. Okay. And this is to the northwest@ these are the rugged ...rugged barren.o.hills. Okay. And this is...short#oebrowneeo grasses. It was almost as though wheat had been cut, you know, it was that ... stubby and hard, okay.' It was not blowing elephant grasses or stuff like that. It was only like two or three inches and it was almost like it would been, had been mowno Because you know that's left when you mow a wheat or a hay field, is just the stubby hard diameter stalkso And it's very, very brittle-and if you walked in it barefooted it's hurt your feet, because,yould be stepping on these pinso Okay. Short,brown stubby... grasses, okay, were all around along the side of the road. And then thist between the barren hills and the edge of this thing that I called a wadi or a gorge or a cleft is just flat rolling plains. All .ght. The ter-. the termsi and this funny SG1 SG1A thi which I don't know how the hell A iEnc:e:q@ o @spe i pro is s, I have spelled it SG1 SG1A Jthese things ccurL @omeiwhen I was hovering over A the Up of this crack watching these vehicles come down by my right and go bump! and then go down into this rather slight, not really a steep gorge like the Rocky Mountains or anything, just maybe a hundred foot ditch, you know, they go down in that. And these were just occured spQn- taneouslyo Uh9os ... *Okay, andl uho.. 3 Approved For Release 2 #:=-'T-788R000400370001-8 Approved For Release 200.""d'c"kNIO-~fg7t'17~Ill~7-MMMSRO00400370001-8 %..) Wilowl lkf - I #10-5: Wellp anyway, here the trucks have to ....... two wheels in the back. Okay. These thing have to go over and down the lip. It's okay, I know this is all irrelevant to you any- way. An' here in the background you can see @he other, in places this wadi becomes steep, or whatever it is. The gorge, it's not really a gorge, it doesn't classify to be gorge. It's like a ditch, not, it's like a big ditch or a, uh ... but it's natural, you know, it's ruggedly natural. 'It's not a manmade thing. Some places it's really steep and other places it's tapered. Anyway, and here's the horizon. Okay. Now the vehicles go down and they go down to what's the east, the west side, and then they would, are moving down sort of across the ditch, and then they were coming back up and then they were continuing on in that direction like this. Okay? Towards the horizon. #66: Okay. #10-5: They're moving. And I had the feeling that they were moving some distance. You know, they were not like just,going four miles. They were like going 50 miles or 75 miles towards this blank- and it is, just a blank horizon. #66: Now the question that I had asked you just before we were stopped by the workmen outside, uh ... was a high altitude shot, andwhere in the world this might be. And you were working on that for a considerable period of time and then we were interupted by the workmen outside pounding on the walls. #10-5: Yeah, you just can't win. Okay. Let,me touch up this one here. Okay. The vehicles come over, they go down this edge then they go sort of quarter mile ... down and across this, uh ... cleft and then they climb back up al a low spot. All right. Having, as I already said, having already used the terms 3c 0 't a de t wadi, because that really was a desc having already had this wei e of SG1 te t of; now w ere e SG1A -phonetically, and now AG1 i SG1A lis. All these things occured spontaneously A though. Uh ... I ... tried to do it as cleanly as I could, ag-1 as a, as a clean shot at where the hell this place was. Sol I, uh, envisioned a cer-, an, a rotating, a revolving globe. And every time I would ask myself where this was occuring I would get, the globe would stop with Africa. Okay...It would justj you know, was, it was like, like I take a blink out of the moving filmt and ittd be Africa there, okay. Now where I believe, uh ... we are talk- ing about is the-Middle Eastern shot that I got of impor- tance is the bottom left hand side of the Red Sea and across the Red Sea from Saudi Arabia. 4 Cla M Approved For Release 20OW15%. Wilkall!"A788RO00400370001-8 Approved For Release 20PN 0788ROO0400370001-8 L. NJ I N L. I #66: So these names that you've mentioned before, do you recog- nize them as- #10-5: #66: SG1A #10-5: #66: SG1A #10.5: #66: #10-5: #66: Yeah, I know where the region is. SG1 Where is that? A It's in Okay. In Okay. So this- An' it's a big area of activity. So this other imagery you.got of your spinning globe imagery seemed to validate those feelings? #10-5: Yes. Yes. #66: Okay. #10-5: And I was7 and that's why I did it that way is because I wanted to make sure I got a clean cut at it instead of somethin' else. Okay. To try to eliminate overlay. Uhl Am,* so anyway their ultimate...the ultimate thing-I got here was***isj uh, shoot*.*isj,uhe**I don't know precisely how this thing goes. This is, this isi ::]..okay, SG1 SG1A re here. Okay. And, uh...-Let me see if I can A remem er my geography now.. Anyway, the place that I had was, I was very clearly seeing the bump that shoots out into I guess it's the Indian Ocean here on the ver-, it's an elbow like thing. And thatts SG1A where E= is. Okay. And the whole area of interest, 'cause I wenT, to this altitude, the whole area of interest was here in the Middle East, in the Eastern Middle, south- eastern Middle East. I did not see any country areas or anything like that. What I did have the feeling of is that there was a general southeasterly movement, and that these, this outfit was going southeast. But that it was somewhere in the interior, it wasntt on the coast or anything like that. And that it was, the movement was like ... that. You know, it was nondescript, but that it was somewhere inside the actual part of the map I was looking at, it wasn't on any identifiable terrain feature or anything like that. SG1 B #66: you see aq uh, caravan of tracks and one tank leading. And, uh, you have, are of the opinion that this is located somewhere inE SG1 A Approved For Release --RO00400370001-8 V__V Lra W I % L@ I SG1A Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 TAB Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 Aiproved For Release 2003/09/10 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 9%... 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(S7NOFORN) Prior to the session the remote viewer was told that during At the beginning of the session the viewer was provided the SG1 B -4WF' NOT E, j@-O NATIONALS V.; Approved For Release 2003/09/10 nP96-00788ROO0400370001-8 $OIJ1% 1 -4..% W 1@11-r Approved For ReleaseWUM9W icl".PR96-00788ROO0400370001-8 WT 1@111,,ASALill J@) SUSJECT: SPiMtl AN.UY"'N' REPORT INIMRPAT'10% (U) f 71@ REPORT 1. (U) The infomation as encl)suro to t1d.-s rer,,:.it. was oLtruned in reoponse to a collection rt,;@qU43-e mont, prOvided by 'jour office. The information is from art unconfirmud ;curcer t1her-fore caution LS i..,,irramed in Lts u!3c. 7dB ciffice ha3 bi@cn, ta.-.,,kcd by the Commaryling Gereral, Intellig(mce uxt 3ccutmty Cormiand, to e-valuate and commient on the opet'ational value of the. infonnati,@n provided, as wall ai3 to a9certal-ii.the accuracy of the sourct-. 2. (11) In order to comply with tid.3 directive, req1tPiit the infomation pi-corid,@d fx!5 Pm enclo,-;ure be evaluat---d and com!,tient-, be L)r@)Jde.,l, 0-.Is office no later thnn This should be accompl.1 shed 'bly re,5poyrdinw. to V--LO(-:'@ Vithin Soction IJI of tll-!@j report. 3 - ( u ) So, c t i on I I C L' -,;t "3-i . is siv..cial iz@@--.tnicticnq for tlv@ ru-ialystsl. 4. P,-oi,@ct - ( I - D 5- Roqu(!s@,or-. T71C. I AJ cx.,@rN r-@Aj- 1,-C 6. (3) Source Nlmnibelr: 7. (S) 8. (3) Date IrSoi-iiation ei@j3 Ct,tEi:ined: 9. 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Work Ji.s currortly be!_.rig con- ducLed on ho;,, to improvl- th(@ acCLI.I'0CY M)d I-C-1. i.@ib-i ti t,y of the data. Your atten- t1ion to the evalu3tion shcot and your remarks will b,-, the basio for our assessiment of this new collection techrliqoc. Therfforc, Uic efCort. yr,,u expc-10 will greatly assist us and will ultima@ely res@ult in you rcceiv-, nj morie itifeimiation of increas- ing, accuracy or-J reliabilAty. 2. (U) Wh_ile foritiulating y(-)(,,i- coricernin,,@, thk@ information provLded, the follo,4r.,,; cow'ments concernir@g this, now @;,,)urce of in*,eliigei,c,7@ may be helpful. Foremost I thc information j.@-, iik@@.4- t"') corl3ist of a triixtire c,!* cor@.'ect 'and In- correct cielients. Spec i1ri ally: a. (S) ne descriptive elemen@.s are geyerally of higher i,el_iability thar, or I wh@,t is bei ng d,,,_7crJ*LI-.ed (r@_!creatioyial swimming T)ooll may be ri-staken for Watel- oil pools, all n@rcr':rt hl.tll way be rill'staker-I ly i for a subir;ar e hul- r 'it etc Th@-,ef@.re, seelldngly appropri.aLe descr-I.IA-d-ve cleiments should not be rejectcd becali3e of' tai-Irib-clirig 1). (S) Phe data often contains gf.-,ps (in a 3-buil .4@jj-lj%. C,,)jq-)jeX, f(-),- e-,, -jjrpjU, perh,_Lps only two of t-he may be described, -,,ricl rin :t.'A-field may be a-I'ded th-ut isn't there). gZ,,,5 ,)r )dkjj4I n to mcaic, UMdU Ox ,hould not. be U@'@ rcs,, of 'the dpt@, is inaccurate. ?. (S) Therefore, a is w fir,-A the entire inforinition pack.et to obtain all ov-_@T-111 fiavo- of Ule IT-,;NI13,@j 'urAgement even j in the face of corta-in errcrs, and thet-i throu@@h for a -Tiore det,,Liled aralysis. 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