Approved For Release ~.",~~,-,R9P96-00788ROO0300230001-4 Owmw,k ORCON/NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS INSCOM GRILL FLAME .PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA REVIEW ON: lo -20-ek-4 EXTENDED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA REASON: 2-301c (3 & 6) 'Ty - T----1 L L Jtl- ~ L. Approved For Release 26DOY (0 4%,R P96-00788ROO0300230001-4 j It. Approved For Release 2000/08/07: CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 ~fte SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC10 1. (s) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in compliance with a request for information on an area of interest. 2. (5) The remote viewer was able to attain his usual state of relaxed concentration during the session. Ambient room noise was moderate and periodic. He was disturbed by ambient room noise at times but was able to regain his concentration when the noise subsided. After the session he expressed his confidence in his imagery. 3. (S) The protocl used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4. (5) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB is target cuing information reference this session. Approved For Release 2000/08/07: CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For ReleasqQf!/r'87 ETAMDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 1%W TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCCIO TIME PAUSE SG1A Relax and concentrate now. Relax, relax, relax, relax, relax and concentrate. Focus. Move your awareness. Move our focus. Move through time Relax and conce on the target PAUSE vow +06 #31 Have a feeling of a, a big palace or monument with a, a vertical columns high up like. I see a, a big building, skyscraper, skyscraper ... seems across the street. SG1A #28 This will be a remote viewing (RV) session for the 4th of March 1980. We have an on-target time of 1400 hours. #28 All right. Once again let yourself relax and concentrate. Relax and concentrate focusing on +09 #31 Have a feeling of a .... desk ... a feeling I'm high up in a nice office building or something like a high .... look out the window I'd I see outside. Desk, a large desk. Feeling of flags, drapery behind it. The room seems funny. As though it's triangular shaped. It's as though I was at the end of a hall at the head of the arroug and the wings go off an the other sided and then there is a desk. I f6el he is sitting at a desk. At the center of the base ... some carpeting Approved For Release 204 Fm;16-00788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For Release 20W02i tVtT96-00788R000300230001-4 bE j nice ... uh...windows ... uh ... covered by a vertical lines on either side of the desk. A feeling of an old fashioned ink bottle with a long, dark pen an the upper left corner of the desk. SG1A #28 All right. Listen carefully now. Listen carefully. Focus your attention on him. Focus your attention solely on )escribe his primary duLy. +13 #31 He is involved a, a I feel a re .... reorganizingVII, of a .... big governmental structure. #28 Tell me the raw data which makes you say that. #31 He is ... uh ... feeling of him taking on organization ideas and discarding them...a screener a proponent a trying ideas and evaluating some for organization, but I did not feel military in its...I felt rather a civil body. SG1A #28 All right. Once again. Relax and conc ntrate. SG1A Relax and concentrate. Focus solely on Describe his prime concern. PAUSE +17 #31 1 had these .... almost a fear a heavy concern for stability ... uh ... feeling of the country ... uh...no small minute thing rather an amalgam of feelings of civil disturbance threat from within. Trying to get a solution to a an age old problem compact many facets. #28 All right. Relax and concentrate once again. Relax SG1A attention solely on PAUSE #28 Describe his specific activity as you observe him. PAUSE +21 #31 Feeling of receiving visitors in this office. I see him reading and reviewing papers and.... they are V/ studies, they are thick manuscripts. They are not single pieces of paper. They are almost bound documents. They are like legal size. They are longer than regular paper. They are ........ he's reading Approved For Release 2000 ,015r"04""' R-R~9100788RO00300230001-4 Approved For Release 200am 4~M6-00788RO003002300014 these. Many peculiarly long and skinny ... but they appear bound on the left side. They ... uh...appear to have a light green cover. A formal cover. I see a various things. The most activity is (mumbling) sitting at desk. #28 All right. Fine. Now, listen very rarefully. SG1A Remaining in the vicinity in space close your eyes at the target location. Close yuur eyes now, you are no longer aware of the target, but SG1A VAUbL #31 Feel as though I am... I don't know ... feel as though I am ... uh ... in an enclosed place, but I'm standing in front of a tiered audience along bleacher rows of audience that is maybe twenty or twenty-five high. Like a race track reviewing it's stand. Grand stand. Something +27 long and people sitting in it everywhere, and then down below it's level, and it's some sort of a funny thing that sticks out of it that people stand on to make addresses. It's almost like it's below in level on each side of this thing. -'It's almost like it's outdoors, but it's indoors. It's a big thing and I can't figure it out. It's ... it's long and flat in the base. Along the side of it are these ... uh...off to one side of these seats, tiered seats ... shooting out from the front of it is like a little knob ... looks like a little water droplets stickingout from the bottom of this thing. It is white as though it was a dies, dies or a little band shell, but without the shell around it. This thing J.9 down low so that the people that are in this stand can look down at them. Whoever is there. I think our guy is on that, as though he is being presented to someone or as though he is being reviewed, or being seen, or being questioned. SG1A #28 Approved For Release 2000 3 6-00788R000300230001-4 Ok. Relax and concentrate for a-moment now. Relax and Approved For Release 200 -~ftEDIF 6-00788ROO0300230001-4 i3f!L PAUSE #31 Keep seeing... keep seeing him on a die with 3 or 4 other people. Feeling of bunti% and pass in review. The feeling I have is that this dies sits down in front of the reviewing stand, and there's a little box that people sit in when they reviews but I see... the feeling of movement along in front of this place, but I simultaneously see picture of a man standing and three or four sitting near him. The man standing is speaking like form a rostrum (phonetic) speaking into a thing like a microphone, but the predominant feeling is that he is looking away from this big bench thing out into the open area in front. At first I thought he was looking back at the stando but ... as though he were answering questions, but after that, and stronger is the feeling that he is looking away from the stand and rather is speaking to troops or to an assembly of people below and away from him. SG1A #26 All right. Once again relax and concentrate. Relax and conce-'---f - Wax and focus your attention solely or Tocus on him and descr-LL)o n-Ls pi--Lmu PAUSE #38 #31 The...uh ... role of the military in maintaining... stabilization of government is one which will never change and must be maintainedg and is a role that cannot be diminished ... uh ... feeling of like a... feeling of a new ... uh-thought in political thought that this is ... uh ... the military does have a key role bigger than before. That's not going to changed and that is the answer to problems, instability ... maintains the momentum ... uh-mobilization ... uh... this is the new ... uh ... new thought is not going... I have the feeling like ... uh ... I'm not, not going to take second fiddle to the civilian body or civilian rule, because that always ends up messing things up. vow, #28 SG1A Approved For Release 2000/QP/0,7 (VA -00788ROO0300230001-4 kD L:~%.j i~ Looks like he's ... uh ... making a new vocal policy statement about the future that-the key to that future is ... the military, I guess. Approved For Release 2000108/07 : 96-00788R000300230001-4 SEC~tT PAUSE #31- He is ... standing and 2 seated men on his left. I dod1t standing somewhat high. S3e points. hand. see the man on his right Heis speaking on a small platform...standing behind of a low rostrum (phonetic) that is belly him moving his right hand to emphasize See him gripping the rostrum with his left PAUSE #28 All right. Fine. Relax and concentrate now. Close your eyes to the target scene and let your imagery go blank. Return now through time in space. Return now to time in space. Move your arms; move your legs and prepare to draw the perceptions that you had. #31 The first feeling I had was like colors standing, and that in front of these colors was ... or guide (phonetic) this is a little peculiar thing here too, or guy (phonetic) who has a funny desk...weird desk. It's like each side of his desk is elevated and he has a writing area inside. This is looking at the front of the desk. A real nice open type tableg but it's got a bump on each side, ok, and next to him, next on each ... the wing backs here in the back of the room are nice white drapped curtains ... really, I got a really plush feeling. A really plush general ... better than a general's office actually, when you get right down to it ... white ... sheers and the same thing on the other side. Had our guy sitting in the back as though he was reading. The feeling here was that he was reading studies. He was not reading single pieces of paper. He was reading bound documents and feeling was as though he was considering options ... considering methods of organizing a civil....not.... it wasn't a military. It wasn't like he was organizing a division or a brigade or how many tanks to put in a division, or anything like that. It was as though he was-in ... like a reconstruction thing. Like he was trying to figure out what the best method of organizing a civil body was to be. It had nothing V/ at all to do with military. It was much more political military,.you know. Heavy on the political side of it. And ... uh ... the funny thing about this room is that it was at the end of ahhall... I'll draw an overhead. It was arrow shaped. I didn't get the feeling it was square. It was as though you walked into the hall where VOW Approved For Release 2000/=n 0788ROO0300230001-4 ULMtT Approved For Release 20 REDT96-00788ROO0300230001-4 you spit out this hall and this...the big room at the end of the hall.-it winged back from there... the back wall and then it came across like that... and he sat right in front of the doors but that these wings were slanted. It wasn't a rectangular room. It was a slanted room...arrowheaded shape. Ok. That's one thing. He was reading green... I got the feeling it was a pale green color, bound documents. They were oversized like they were legal sized bound documentst and I looked at the legal size, you know, and I was thinking to myself usually legal size is a legal pad and somebody flips through it like this, and I sort of like took a-little closer look and they weren't. They were bound on the left side. I don't know. I had the feeling that they were bound on the left side any-way. It may or may not be the way they do it, but... OK. So,a feeling for the shape..of this room is like this in sketch number 2. Window there. Window there. Flag pole there or flags. I had the standing flag fleeling. With the desk here. The desk being a real nice solid oak and type thing and it's got these funny raised - things on each side of it, and old fashioned ink bottle sticking out like thatq and it was a black ink bottle sits there on the left. Think the guy's lefty, I don't know, but ..... ahh ..... these are windows ..... here's a flag, ok, and the guy sits there. My feelings of association are ... I don't know ... did I go over them well enough ... what I thought the guy was thinking about ... like I said he was reviewing...It was like he was saying, no, that's too much solid one way. We've got to do something to stabilize the country type V / of a thing, and then, no, that's not strong enough. He was going through various.... like people had sent him suggestions, and he had like 3 to pick and choose from. He was going over this in his head ..... or not the country, but rather whatever organization, ok. On to the next one? #28 All right. #31 Then I guess.... You'll have to refresh my memory. Was that when we moved then? #28 Ok. After you were through describing ... uh ... time frame of ........ Approved For Release 200051,:1106 NET-00788RO00300230001-4 Approved For Release 2-P,,Pqqi -TDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 QP%CE- vw~ #31 Ohl Remind me to go back and do my first imagery too. #28 All right. #31 Which was just my acquisition imageryg but ..... #28 before we himcu-1f. Ok. Then we moved in time to SG1A and not knowing where he W0U.LU De 111 aliu LA.LUU1._ whether he would be in the same office or not, PaPempted to let you free-flow that so that you were at liberty, at least, to come up with another location. SG1A #31 Uh... the imagery, the imagery, the acquisition imagery here was as though I was standing in-well it's hard to say ... it's as though I was standing on the infield of a ball diamond, or the infield of a race track is better. But, that the grandstand was not some humongeous thing that went up some 60 feet in the air. Rather, the grandstand was something that was more like a low set of bleachers. It had maybe 25 or 30 rows in it and they went back. All I saw was one, one strip. I don't know if this idea of grandstand is curved or if it is straight or not. All I sav was straight portion. Had the feeling that I was ..... it was a mixed feeling. It was as though I was outside...it was as though I was in a place where I should have been outside, but I felt inside. I felt as though this place could have been an outside ... right to begin with, I was a little mixed up ... whether this could be an outside huge race course, type of public address place or maybe it was one small fragment of a large building... interior room that I was looking at. But it was.... I had the definite feeling of some sort of covering over it. I really did, and I couldn't make it out. What I ended up with then was what I saw going off in the distance here, ok, like that. This being a wall, ok, and this being the seats. Tiered seats, and the thing is only ..... what did I say ..... 20 rows max, ok. Nowt jutting out from this it's as though there is a dies there. I had a curvy feeling. It's as though it's curved. It's not round. I mean it's curve is not round. It's curved. It's not square, ok. This juts out, like that. And the rest of the stands or bleachers, or whatever it is goes on this way. I had the feeling even that the... yeah, I had the feeling that .......... ok.....and it's curiously set ..... it's curiously set off from the wall. I'll draw an overhead feeling here. It's as though it's almost separated a-little bit to make it a little bit different. To make it a little bit farther out Approved For Release 2000/06E&RE6To788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For Release CMDP96-00788ROO0300230001.4 forward of the regular seats in the back. Well anywayt how do you spell dies?.Dai 5 or dia5. I don't know. You know what I mean. It's like when you're up ... when you're out in front in front of everybody ..... a podium, a big podium. A sub-band stand, I guess, is what you call it. The idea of several people being here...I...several ... wrong... 4 people being here, of which our guy has the X cover him. He's standing, and then there's 2 therey and he has, he stands behind a thing that's got a microphone sticking up out of it, ok. Now, I had two various thoughts. This is a little muddied.here. This is what I settled on. The feeling that .... in 3 ..... the feeling that a ceremony of some type was taking .... a massive ceremony of some type was taking place. Ok. And that they were proceeding this way ... passed in front ... and then that they came around, and they assembled. Massive ranks assembled here before the diesI, ok. Assembled ranks here, ok. So they pass in review type of a situation. They all come here in what would be the infield, I guess, and then our guy starts talking. You asked me what he is doing. I had him addressing the people. He was speaking from this podiumt and then I don't know what I said. Because I think... I really don't recall. I know that I was talking but I really don't recall what it was I was saying. The essence of it being... I really had a good feeling. Like I was right in there. The essence of it being the fact, you know, it was a new system and this is the way it Is going to be guised. The new plan is this. We're not going to take it in the ear anymore. We're going to have more of a ready hand in whatever it is that we're supposed to be doing etcqtera, etcetera, etcetera. That's about it. Sort of a da ..... The feeling from him was that, well, you know like when you're about ready to jump out of the airplane, this is it, you know (whistle). It opens or it don't. We'll see what happens, type of a feeling. This was sort of a feeling coming from him, you know. Like, well here it is, you know. I can't, I can't put it off any longer. This is going to be the one. We'll run this up the flagpole and see.if anybody salutes .... type of a situation. The alternate to 3 was some..... I couldn't figure out if this guy was talking away from the grandstand or if he was talking to the grandstand. It was a little mix up there. When I first went into the imagery it was as though he was baring his bones before... like a Approved For Release 2000,SE(3RET-00788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For ReleaseSE&D PATRDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 11 E. I Noe Senate committee, you know. I had this feeling of sitting before the dietq answering questions and speaking through a microphone. The idea of speaking public address microphone in a different, in a segregated area was very strong but the relationship between the audience and the speaker was what I couldn't figure out. That alternate feeling would have them ... the rows bleachers, or seats, you know, podium seats rather, with the podium reversed and him speaking into the crowd ... into the observer crowd, and I couldn't really get that hashed out. #28 Do the ... in the perception of him facing people sitting in rows of seats ... in that perception of the happenings do you still have the ... uh ... rows of ranks as that part of that imagery~ #31 Like behind him...what would then be behind? #28 What I want to know... I.want to know what your imagery is. #31 No. No. No. The imagery there is limited to ... into the dies and the row seats ... into the dies and the row seats with the dies turned around and with the attention of the speaker and this guy being directed towards the rowed seats instead of what in sketch 3 has him with the rowed seats behind him speaking out into this infield. This assembled ranks. There's a.little bit of humble jumble there, ok. The feeling ..... againt though, the initial feeling of row seats... that's.a hit ... you know., That ' s. right on. No question about that. This separate, slightly separated area where he is, that's no trouble with that and the fact -that he's making public address of some kind, that's no, no trouble. Where the trouble was in my imagery is what the relationship between, you know. Which way he was looking and who he was speaking to. Ok. That's, you know, and with that comes this pass and review thing you know, because in the alternate system there wouldn't be any pass and review, you.know, because he wouldn't have anybody, you know. That type ...... Ok. An overhead is sort of like this. This rounded in 4. Here are the rank seats. Rows of seats. I'll call this number 3 overhead. There is a guy here. Our guy there with the X speaking into a microphone. Another guy here and another guy there. Again, there's this thing that's like a little nodule that sticks out front. But it's,round. That's this rounded feeling. The other thing on it is bunting, ok. Around it. I know that the Approved For Release 2000eff GIWT6-00788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For ReleasEWfj'R."tqllTrlb%DP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 SG1A but the word occurred to me here, in 3t I useu IL just now, earlier ... that did occur to me during the session when I was in this imagery with rowed rank seats and him speaking publicly* M And what does that word mean to you? SG1A #31 #19.5 What else? How do you feel about it? #31 1 feel real good about thatq and I feel real good about what I already just explained. You know. The general...the flavor of this. I am, I am the first to point out though there are two alternatives here. Two variety ... feeling. I feel pretty strongly about the sensations that I got. In other words, picking, trying to pick his brain. I feel pretty strongly about the civil association at the first part of this session. Again,. him attempting to decide which way of 2 or 3 alternatives they were going to go and trying to go through organizations in it. Not being military. But, rather being ... a civil decision being Made. Having to do with the body politic, ok. How to keep the body politic appeased and down in the streets and not rioting. I did, I did get this, almost this fear that I better make the right decision or else the lid Is going to blow off. You know. Boy, if we blow this one there's going to be hell to pay. #19.5 Do you have a feeling as to whether or not that decision that you just talked about was made before or after the 17th? #31 1 have the feeling .... in the first part of the session the decision was being made and that it was made between this part of the session and this part of the session, because when he was up doing his thing in front of God, and everybody in the last part of.this session that was the feeling, you know, well we have got to run this up the flag pole. You know. We can't put it off any longer. This is the way it's going to be, and I tuned in on these Approved For Release 200 ZECRF.T-00788ROO0300230001-4 Approved For Release 20 r'I^RfiTP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 .k7 really aggressive type system change words. You know. We're not going to have this screwed up system that we had before. WE! re going to have this one now. You know. The military is going to stay ... what did I ... The military is going to stay in a position of strength. We're not going to turn. I had the real feeling that %yetre not going to turn over the reigns of government to civilians againt and that the military would be the final check in the check and balances systemg and that's the decision that he was trying to make here .... one of the alternatives that he was considering here and that had been done and then on the 17th that was the decision that was going to be presented. Not.. r was being presented because those were the words that I. was:picki-ng up. The real...I.almost felt a little hoakey (phonetic) saying itq you know. Real ... uh ... in the sensitivity of the session, you know-it felt almost like it were a Hitler tripq but I know that it wasn't the case. But it was this real firing burnstone from the pulpit, you know, and he was laying it on the ranks ... you guys are really cool and we are going to stay cool. You know. V/ We're the protectors of the father land. And the term father land was there. It was somewhere in -the monologue. #19.5 1 only have one other question. Do you know or do you Ame have any idea who this guy really is? #31 You mean outside of this? #19.5 Yes. #31 No. I have not the slightest dammed idea who he is. #28 Do you have anything you would like to add? #31 Yes. I would like to sketch the first part of the SG1A session. SG1A #28 Let's do that This is before I told #31 That gave me a little trouble. Reason it gave me a little trouble isq I don't know...how can I tell ... the sort of the thought that slipped through my mind, how do I know SG1A if I'm in or not, you know. So I ended up with a building that looked like the front .... I mean it was really an ornate brick palacet you know. I called it the palace or a palace.. It's like a Washington Memorial type of thing. But, it was functional building. Approved For Release 2000M 00788ROO0300230001-4 OEGiRlEFF Approved For ReleaseSR/M EATR L.WfR DP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 VOW It wasn't a memorial. You know. It was something with these big colonnades, you know, everything like that, and I then sort of cruised around again and I saw...I felt like I was on a street... I looked across and there,was some sort of a big regular rectangular skyscraper across the street. So that's all I could say. For all I knew, I could have-been anywhere. You know. But, it sort of puzzled me at the time. Anyway. #28 So then on page 5 you are going to be drawinq your SG1A SG1A imauery that you had before focusing on #31 1 mean, I know it may not be germain, or anything, but I feel better getting rid of it. In that way I don't have to screw with it again. I'll just do a quick one here. It doesn't have to have any quality in it, I guess. Again the feeling of these big massive colonnades. A big public building. Then across the street was just a large skyscraper. 0k. That is that. #28 Ok. Anything else you vould like to add? #31 No . Other than the sketch in 1 and 2 ... if anybody out there ... if anybody out there knows how to get to this guy's office ... ha, ha at the end of a long hall ... uh ... you know...there's this long hall type of a situation .... uh ... that's all I can say. 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The facilitator was also provided with three basic questions to ask (attached), which were designed to circumvent direct cuing towards the required information. 2. (S) Both viewer and facilitator knew prior to the session which analyst would be directing the specific target, but since information concerning country of origin was provided to the viewer as a portion of the targeting information, this should have had no ill affect. 3. (S) No other information was provided to either viewer or facilitator prior to the session. O~ PHI~~ 0 " 'PH W. McMONEAGLE,, 14r cMO ~ An?, CW2 Analyst V4W Approved For Release8ECo7RE-TDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 SG1A Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4 Next 1 Page(s) In Document Exempt Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0300230001-4