Approved For Release 2QO-QLIIBIM7-JMP"-%WPIW-00788ROO0600090001-7 INSCOM GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY:MSGIDAMI-ISH DATED: 051630ZJUL78 NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS REVIEW ON:~&~,,~ C,p I - Approved For Release 2000(Cgei-bMMMn&-0078Qol'ol&&EI-7AME L-1 FA L~ I Approved For Release 2006'1~ 1-" " i~l I- 0 W-IMQLYALMIA-tWR96-00788ROO0600090001-7 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-86 SG1B (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in compliance with a request for information concerning the activities of SG1B 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote-viewer's impressions of the-target are provided as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. At TAB A is target cuing information. NOT RE E -NATIONALS LEAJV~ - _ fJJGN~, Approved For Release 200 .11011FIGN L- 6- 0 788ROOO 600090001-7 wo Approved For Release 200Ut6y_1. tQkYI"Ljr 10-U 97ILT-VI 0788ROO0600090001-7 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-66 #66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours, 19 February 1981. SG1 E SG1 B SG1B SG1B SG1 B to be continuing-to build rapport with a Now, I want to show you another picture here of another office. Now9 as it turns out .... and there... or works in this other building,most of the-time, and only visits the SG1 Bheadquarters occasionally in the evening. This is the best assessment that we have of ~ activities, and that, and that we actually might' find him during most of the normal work day in this other building. Now, we are going to be asking you today to locate M during the SG1B SG1 B past twelve hours. Now, right now, it's approaching nine o'clock at night in the Right nowq as we talk, it's approaching nine o'clock at night. So, we're going to ask you to take a look during the past twelve hours,.during the normal SG1 B working day~.durin the past twelve hours, during the normal working day, and locate i " Now ..... if, in fact, you do seem to find him in this annex buildingg I call it an annex because it's not the = SG1B headquarters, if you do find him in this, it would be interesting to follow through from this entrance where you can see a gentleman standing at the entrance waiting for authorization to go into the SG1 B building, it might be interesting to.go through that and follow a route SG1E to ~ office, so we might discover where ~ office is in that building. The principal mission toda is to establish rapport... " SG1B -to continue to establish rapport with and, as we do find him, and do pin him down, and focus on him wherever he may be today during the normal working hours, I have a couple of questions that I will be asking specifically about him. So, do you have any questions then, before we begin preparation for this session? #07: Ah, you mentioned a door. Is there a door here? #66: Okay. I'll point it out to you again, See, there's a, this is xeroxed, so it's hard to tell, but there is a gentleman standing, waiting for admittance to the building.at~ what I've been told, is like a check.point or a guard desk or a permission to enter point ..... You can see a man there waiting to get in. It's kind of hard to recognize. Approved For Release 200(jojpqLLWprirW--m3788ROO0600090001-7 Approved For Release 2 -00788R000600090001-7 #07: I'll take your word for it. I ........ #66: It's hard to.recognizeq but that's ... ah, I've been told, that's what that is. That is a man waiting..... #07: 1 see a man, but I see no door. #66: Aha (affirmative). #07: Except a large ... ah... #66: Like garage door,s? #07: Yeah. #66: Okay. Okay. Any other questions? #07: No. I don't think so. #66: Okay. If not, then you have about ...... 20 minutes to prepare yourself. PAUSE SG1 B SG1 B #66: Focus your attention now on M solely and completely onm PAUSE SG1B #66: Focusing solely and completely on M who you know.well by now, describe for me his work location during this past day. Describe his work location during this past day. PAUSE #07: I..ah..I got him at both places same time. I see him up pretty high off the ground with an office with dim lighting except ... bright light ... on the desk. Desk is, seems too low. Hw humpws ocwe ir writingo..alone at night. Then, I see.him in a more modern place ..... s-s-symbols, things ... make me think it ... seems tied to university. #66: Elaborate on this for me. I don't understand. #07: 1 saw ... men, black (clothing) 'looked like American... graduation, cloak...scrolls. Then I saw people.in all white coats and shoes ..... Several things confuse me very much. #66: All.right. Then) do I understand that you feel these things are symbol,s? #07: 1 think so. #66: And, in your perceptiont what do the symbols mean to yo~u? What symbolic meaning do they have to yo~u? NNW, 2 Approved For Release 20"O"Ir nn788ROO0600090001-7 Approved For Release 200 aw, 50- 788ROO0600090001-7 #07: Some, some ... some ki--- some kind off U---ni--.!-versity.....supported facility. Therels one.part of building in that ... opens....vertically for more than$ more than one floor ...... I saw metal ladder on wheels, like... like steps that they wheel out to airplane in the small airport. Steps about.....ninep eight, nine feet high. #66: Aha (affirmative).. What goes on in this room with the ladde.r? #07: I've been tryin' to figure that. One moment-I saw animals ..... recognized very clearly .... one was a monkey ... small ... two foot from rump...rump to the top of.the head...monkey had large airy open space, not confined or chained... Saw...long ... curved ribbon like shape with little ball repetitions along perimeter. I don't know how big it is. It looked like I got inside of it. Had to look all directions to see it. I think it's small. SG1 B SG1B #66: Turn n Turn now to ow to #07: Wait a minute. I lost him. I was just wandering around inside this, inside this ... must be some kind of laboratory ....... PAUSE SG1B #66: Tell me about M #07: I-have to find him ..... Het he, he's being shown ... something. Like ....image density slicing...crude..' 0stylistic ... lave a map like shape of a... I think it's upper, upper torso and head .... of a human .... different colors. All I know, it reminds me of a .... thermogram of a human being. SG1 B #66: What is it = hopes to discover from this picturle? From what he's being showng what is it hopes to discove.r? SG1B #07: He doesn't seem very impressed ... strong feeling, trying.to please him In this other room, I:see long, long counter table-like thing with a lot of people sitting...six or eight people sitting, bent over ... fiddling with something.very small. A moment ago I had the feeling of ... electronics involved, but I don't feel.that, that it is a product. Must be-.a tool ..... I,see a lot of ..... s.eparate isolated imagery of repetitive patterns ..... diminishing to ..... invisibility ...short span ... space. Don't know if this is some.kind of pro- gression or,,,,.total.....ir is total ..... I gotta go back. #66: Let's go to the time window where = is in the evening or night hours writing at the desk. SG1B #07: 1 think I got him. #66: Okay. Now,. as he sits,there and his mind is occupied at his writing let's contact him and ask.him to explain to you his job responsibility. What job is he doin'g? What's his responsibility, his area of expertise? fit ".hn7 Approved For Release 200 Pacm-n0788RO00600090001-7 -A =270110-MM Approved For Release 2000/001%91 8ROO0600090001-7 #07: 1 don't normally ask for that label. It sure doesn't work asking him. #66: All right. Let's ask him then, what is it he likes about his job. What is the aspect which he enjoys most about his jo~b? #07: I'll be damned.....I get is a....when I ask that question, there's a little boy about .... eight years old trying to get love and attention, ...... recognition. I feel that ...... that must be still... #66: Okay. I can understand his answer. SG1 B #07: .... Still* ... #66: Tell him that you, what you see .... tell him that you see this person seeking ..... and ask him what it is that he must do to get this recogni tion. PAUSE #07: Well, his mind is either veryo very complex or he's half crazy. I'm gettin' awful imagery. Like .... emaciated.....faces of horror just flying past me in the dark. I don'tknow if it has meaningp uh ....... #66: Tell him.you do not understand the imagery to the question of how does he achievey how can he get this recognition, and ask him to try and explain it to you in terms that you will understand. #07: 1 get masses ...... people, cowering,.*,crouching, fear .... hatred.... There's a group of people over.there.* ... slowly.promisingg bating promising .... something better...s.or...*.- I get a strong sensation of some kind of manipulative .... manipulative control. #66: By what methode ... #07: Feeling.e..o.oo. #66: this control affected? #07: ..,.not, um ... directly, involves ... feels God-like...... I don't want t-t-to say, but some unnatural (mumble) some unnatural, something.... cre-creates vulnerability of feeling, of vulnerability ... fear .... peoples, masses.oo.appear symbolically very poor, uneducated .... extremely vulnerable, but feelin 9 ... is unnatural. Doesn't seem to have .... doesn't seem to result from....,doesn't seem .... doesn't seem to result from .... an identified threat by the people .... Just got awful panicky fear.of, from unknown causes.... Get the feeling .... possibly .... externally induced, chemically or electronically, not like conveying information or fear to individuals .... peoples do not .... do not understand.... Looks like... get the feeling of ... huge mass of insane people, insane people-peoples hallucinating It's an awful damn scene. Approved For Release 200016i""i M IPM"788ROO0600090001-7 PAUSE ow". heft Approved For Release 2000/ .1"NoffiRC00788RO00600090001-7 SG1 B #66: Return to and ask him how does one combat this. What is #07: Seems to be one of the pieces of the pie that makes it import nt. He shook out a skinny finger at me. I ... it's a no-no... #66: To what was he reforrin,9? #07: 1 asked the question, and...he lookedand grinned, and up he shooked his index finger ... in to a no-no-....side- to-side. As sayt it's close hold or that's for know or.##* me to #66: Okay. #07: ....you don't need to know or feeling like that. SG1 B #66: Okay. All right. Very good. Listen me now for just ute. to a 'i Listen to me now for a minute. Rememberthe experience that is having right now is he perceiveshe's daydreamin that 91 " 1 have SG1 B perceives that he's talking to himself. Therefore, you s MP1 to ask ..tell.him that it is close holdp and he's pposed not s to tell anybody. But,.if he were plain to explain, if he were to e itq how would he do tha,t? the countermeasure? How does one protect from thi.s? PAUSE #07: Oh, yeah. Relatively complicated but I can understand it ... It's a big joke. PAUSE #07: #66: #66: #07: #66: #07: Was I working on somethin.g? Okay. Hold your comments now while I turn over the tape, an then we'll readdress the problem. Hold your comments now. PAUSE SG1B Okay. You were readdressing tellin ghim that although he was not to-explain the countermeaWsure o you, if he were to expl in it, how would he go about doing it? 1 think we discussed that ...... All right. Would you like to repeat i tplease. 1 gotta' go back and find it. #66: Thdt's fine. I will wait. PAUSE 5- ~, !--:. Approved For Release 2000/QAI&7~- jx.,C., -UU-RO00600090001 4 Approved For Release 2000/08/ 000600090001- #07: it's a ... whatever it is apparently quite safe.exceptrability for vuln of people during this schizo ... oh~ behavior ... apparentlyt alone ... 1e it ... left alone it runs its course like a fever ... real unless othe world conditions are induced.to ... extend the affect implant ... or to.. ideas ... while people are ..... I get the feeling tive extremely rece to ... outside stimuli... The knowledge of how much, go and how t about... inducing the imprint ..... it's important. #66: Important in terms of what aspect? #07: To induce the desired affect. #66: What is the countermeasure to prevent the induction . of affect What can be done? #07: I've been looking for the cause. I felt if I had to use, find a c I could understand the counter ......... 66: Aha. (Affirmative) Sometimes it's easier to go directlye to t answer without bothering.with the details of the nitty-gritty. #07: Uh... I ... get...get the feeling that ... the cause ig in is ... somethi food, water or air, gas or something ... I didn't believe~as it gas because I looked at... the people that were pretendinbe good g to guys... They didn't have masks on to protect them, weren't, and they they weren't schizo... I get the feeling that ... the 0unter biggest is to avoid intake of whatever it is that causes this.the I % y e ystem feeling that it's a sort of thing that can ... enter someone without them being suspicious or aware...recognition ondi- of the ' tion in time to counter is ... not within the capabilityssisted of un human being. I mean without ... some type of external at input t warns.t.warningo #66: All right. Now, you stated previously that once inducedeft if alone would run a course ..... #07: Yes. #66: ..... and I believe you said that the danger period then is the... the time while the induced behavior is taking place is the d nger zone. #07: 1 get vulner--vulnerability, vulnerable period. #66: Okay. PAUSE #07: 1 don't know where it's a, a,.f ---- induced fear or the expre sions I see or (are) passive horror; note not, not screaming horro #66: Is there an induced flight or fight psychological response? #07: No. Just the opposite. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 QtA'-'~nP-Q'Jjftr17fmgOO0600090001-~ Jr Approved For Release 2000/08/07: 05P§T%t~AMR000600090001 - IA #66: Explain. #07: Passive.oo.o Going-into tight crouching, coweringt position. Trying to...squirm.under anything that's nearby~ going to a t ght ball snuggle up against a flat wallo..though it doesn't hideo . p-iessed tight against anything that will resist and not move way. #66: Aha. (Affirmative) #07: But, no running, no fight, definitely no fight, no fight., ... #66: And, you said, I believe that there.was a..oduring this time here was a danger of susceptibility to suggestion. #07: Anything to escape this horrible feeling. -I get the feeling hat... induced suggestion, ... creates a very s.trong...desire, desire t be, to please, to, to, to be subservient ... damn thing is...reminds me almost of what I imagine truth-serum would be like, but talkativeness is inaccurateo untruthful because of the desire to, to please Strong feeling that reward will result from pleasing somethi someone, For the re,cordt I just...saw a puff of smoke, stea ... something just a puff come out of a long tube. It may mean othing, but..... SG1 B #66: Okay. Let's return to M now, and tell me a little bit a out him right now. PAUSE #07: He doesn't see this, to have no control as horribleo Considers it a temporary addition which.,.brihga about a better way of lifel In-spite of the warped desires of ... these unintelligent being Feels he is...creating happiness for these people -in spite o themselves, I think is what he thinks, SG1B #66: Aha. (Affirmative) It's time now to thank M for the inf rmation and tell him that you will see him again, and time.now for y u to add any other perceptions that you feel are important. PAUSE #07: 1 told him that... this meditation-period and rethinking of s me of ... his work was relaxingp pleasurablet daydream that was g od for his health, and.that he ought to try and do this ... in t e evenings when he's alone and things are quiet. #66: Very good. Tell him that you will be willing to talk to him any time he wishes. That you are available because you are free of time. #07: Had an expression on his face a few times, I don't think h Is quite ready for that. 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