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 REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC7
 1. (S) This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session conducted
 in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington,
 D.C. The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant
 to the hostage situation in the U.S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
 2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
 as raw intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any
 intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and
 use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
 3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
 Grill Flame, Protocol, AHSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
 4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the
 remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
 reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
 information provided the remote viewer.
 5. (S) The remote viewer was targeted against Michael
 viewer was aware of another hostage located in the same
 later identified as Richard 1. Queen -/(- The remote viewer
 forward in time to 20 March 1980. He described Metrinko
 a conference/seminar atmosphere along with many other of
 none of which were identified.
 Metrinko. The
 room, whom he
 was then move
 as being in
 the hostages,
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      #14 This will be a remote viewing session for 28 February
 1900. The on-target, time is 0900 hours.
 PAUSE
 All right #46 the time is 0900 hours. Our target for
 today is Michael Metrinko. At the beginning of the
 session I showed you a photograph of Hetrinko. I want
 you now to relax, relax, focus your attention on
 Michael Metrinko. Project yourself to his location and
 tell me what you see.
 PAUSE
 +03 #46 Got a beard. Much longer hair nou. He's..uh..I got
 the impression of a, of a room. Room there were 3,
 3 cots at one time and there are only 2. Getting an
 +05 impression of a kind of a brown, brown sweater ..... which
 he seems to use repeatedly. Room is..uh..bigger than
 +06 normal bedroom, than cubicle type. Extremely bored
 young man.
 PAUSE
 #14 Is there anyone else in this room?
      #46 Yeah, yeah. It, it ... tired of ... I see a deck of cards
 I think, with a light blue, light blue checker type
 with lines, deck of cards that are used over and over
 again. There were 3 before. There's only 1. Now
 there are 2. 1 don't know. The other guy is taller.
 I was getting, I mean that I think he's wearing glasse
 I want to say that they, they seem to agree. They s=-/
 to buy the Shah theory. It seems to be the entire
 incident is reputable to the Shah of Iran. Large consenses
 here that-uh-they agree on this basic point.
      #14 1 want you to take a very good hard look at anybody
 else in this room besides Metrinko. I will ask you
 to identify them in photographs after this session.
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      #46 1 just see this one other guy. I see Metrinkos..uh..
 between 5 8, 5 10 this other guy is .... 6 6 1 tall,
 broad, heavier set, at least ...
 PAUSE
 As I see 2 beds lined up on the other side of the wall
 there was a 3d one next to the door. It's ... it comes
 and goes. It was either there. It was taken out or
 ...... yet, but there's no occupant. Just 2 to the
 room (mumbling).
 PAUSE
 Ok. And the other guy ... I got the distinctive
 characteristics as (mumbling)...he's got a beard, too.
 A heavy horn-rimmed glasses. I see a mixture of color
 brown, dark brown and yellowish brown .....
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 +14
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 #14 1 want you now to leave this
 #46 One more thing, I think got
 I'm trying to get some idea.
 be a J in there, something.
 English letter. Old English
 C or a G in old English with
 Ok.
 room .......
 the impression of a C.
      C, first initial M, may
 This is like in a old
 title. Looked like a C.
 an M and a J in front.
      #14 1 want you now to leave this room and take a quick
 look around this building inside and tell me if you
 find anymore hostages there.
              PAUSE
 #46 First impression was of long corridors, people walking
 around in pairs. I don't know where the hostages are.
 Got the impression of the corridors ... light, light
 wooden floors. Like hardwood floors. Looks like a
 college dorm, or something. I don't know. Long
 corridors.
 PAUSE
 I don't know. I still got
 walking around in tuds and
 I don't think they are all
 It's as if the security was
 There's no, no big security
 that impression of people
 three!s. It's confusing.
 hostages but a mixture.
 assured from the outside.
 stuff inside.
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       #14 All right #46. 1 want you now to leave the building.
I want you to go outside and describe this building
and the area around it.
PAUSE
+18 #46 There's trees and grass. Big yard. It's like this
             +20 were a dam ... some sort of school red brick. Like the),
two waii; of the end of the building kind.of protrude
(beyond the side walls.
PAUSE
       #46 One side there's this big yard not in use so there's
a very much smaller yard with a tree line that's much
closer.
PAUSE
       #14 All right #46 1 want you to s-l-o-w-l-y drift up into
the air, over this area...drift several hundred feet to
a point where you have a good view of this area. Describe
it to me.
PAUSE
+23 #46 1 can only see trees. (Mumbling) only by trees. Again
the back yard...more pronounced than the front yard.
There's a corner of a yellow or white building on one
side with somewhat removed. There's another building
on the other side. Get the impression it's on a slight
curve, a slight curve. White building has got..uh..
columns and domes. Kind of a reddish brick building
and the only distinctive feature has got 2 white cement
dull gray columns to the entrance. Not huge.
                    PAUSE
#14 All right #46 1 want you to maintain your position.
I want you to close your eyes. I'm going to take you
to a different part in time. I want you to relax,
relax. I'm going to mo
month from toda . e ime is now 11:00 a.m., Iran
TTme.--77e-cFaT--e is 28 March 1980. 1 Want you to relax;
move to that point in time. I want you to focus again
on Michael Hetrinko. It's one month from today. I want
1you to open your eyes and tell me what you see.
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#46 He's one of many. at a conference sort table.
+28 Wide open shirt, collar. He's answering questions
for the camera .... broadcasting. I'm getting a
(mumbling) he's going to..be against the Shah.
PAUSE
The people asking the questions are not Iranians.
There are 7 or 8 of 'em. This is the first time that
this guy's come to the realization that he's going It
~Ito be set free.
PAUSE
#14 do you perceive any other hostages?
#46 Yeah. A whole bunch.
#14 Do you see any of the Iranian terrorists or guards?
#46 Not participating. No.No. These friends aren't
going to go any place (phonetic).
The ... you won't see 'em with guards anyway. They're
going to be in the background someplace but you won't
see 'em. The hostages know they can't go any place.
PAUSE
            Have a ..... I..uh..got the impression being conducted
+31 with-uh-series. May be 8 to 12 hostages being,
                        being asked questions. It's going to be ..... turn o ut
1/to be like a ... in some instances almost like a seminar
PAI ISE
                   #14( Te 11 me #46. Do you feel 2S though you're stil in
       7-re s~tillin
               Iran?
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#46 1 don't know! Because feel, feeling the panel these
8 guys from Iran is in the back long round table.
I see mikes. Individual mikes. I can't see. It's
very dark. I would only be guessing. I don't get
the feel ..... in New York.
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#14 1 have no further questions #46. Is there anything
else that is important to add before I bring you back?
+37 #46 Yeah. Get the distinct impression'that this is a
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the U.N.
                          PAUSE
That's all.
      #14 All right #46. 1 want you to close your eyes again,
and I want you to s-l-o-w-l-y drift back to today,
28 February 1980. The time is now 0938.
Stretch your arms and legs a little bit. Well, how
do you feel?
#46 Ok.
      #14 Uh ... the first thing that you described was Metrinko
himself. Then you went on to describe the room that
tie was in.
                   #46 Yeah. That was my first impression was the room. The
room was rectangular but it was not-uh-the small
cubicle that I had once perceived before. It was wider
than the normal little bedroom cubicle which is somewhat
narrower than ... almost so little type that we've seen
before. This was much wider. It was a bigger type room.
It didn't seem like it was originally a bedroom. I'm
not going to redescribe him, except that I thought he
had a beard. And-uh-he WEIS bored to death, and ...
his companion was this tall guy with the horn-rimmed
glasses. There was a third guy in there who was in
there but he was not there. He was there at one time.
                                      What I had was a bed lined up on one side ... not a bed
               a cot, sort of ... impression of a white mattress
with ... the bed is undone ... keeps sitting down on the
bed. That was, that was a reoccurring impression;
and what I had was-uh-cat something like here where
this other guy made his home. There was a door here.
Along here, this, this cot here kept being there and
not being there. So it was like in and out. This is
the room that I saw when I first located him.
#14 Did you notice any other furniture in this, this
room?
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#46 Uh ..... I saw like a ... funny you should say that ... but
..uh..books like a library type book. Not extensive
but maybe 3 or 4 shelves of books in this wall here.
Uh ..... quite a bit of furniture. Little tables lik
coffee tables. Put that down. That's not really a
bed. It's a cot, cot. cot. Then I'm not-going to
put there not there. That's the one ... I'll just say
number 3 that I<epL being there and not being there.
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looked out into the yard for some reason. Fy sense of
direction is off. 0k. That was it.
      #14 All right. Then you started to describe another
individual ... you described as having heavy horn-rimmed
glasses ...
#46 Ok. Let's put him in cot number 2. That was his bed.
He was a little older. Not that much older but maybe
2 years, 2 or 3 years older. Much taller.
#14 I'll-uh-I'll show you some photographs after this
session and see if we can identify .....
                   #46 Ok. I was trying to pick up a distinctive characteristic.
lie also had a beard which I think was grown. I was
trying to pick up his facial features and the only
thing that kept popping up as distinctive was the
brown, yellow horn-rimmed glasses.
                              #14 You also described, you also had impressions of the
                  letter C me type of letters or initials.
#46 Oh! Yeah. This was like Gothic, old English-type.
I'm very bad at..uh..numbers and stuff, but I gave it
a try trying to give the guy an ID. Got the impressio
of a those letters superseded by a J M or M J or all
in Gothic whatever that is. What was the next thing?
#14 Oh, you describ .... then I moved you outside of this
room and you described long corridors, hardwood floors,
college dorm type feeling ... uh..and people moving up and
down the halls in 2's and 31s. Is there anything worth
drawing on that?
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       #46 No. It was just a very relaxed atmosphere. The
corridor was ... peculiar thing abouL the corridor was
that the hardwood floors were kind lo light, bluish
light and the ceilings were very white and the windows
giving on to that back yard. There was alot of light
and the corridors were quite spacious and there was
a very relaxed atmosphere with, with people in clusters
of 2's and 31s. And, you asked me if they were all
hostages. I did not get the impression they were all
hostages.
       #14 Then you..uh..l led you outside and you described trees
and grass, big yard. I had the impression of some sort
of ... uh..you mentioned school. You mentioned red brick.
#46 That was when you tried to make me pinpoint the type of
building. Let me go on and draw the .... later on you
tried to make me lo ... pinpoint the location. I had
difficulty there. Only because I was too low and tried
to go higher and get a bigger perspective (turned tape
over) ..... come back to that particular building after
some of the impressions.
14hat I had ... trying to pinpoint features-uh-locations
and this is pretty high up, but what I had was a slight
bend ... I think this was a road or something back here
... ok ... but this was ... I'm going to draw it this way
because I had to get ... ha ... real high to get a perspective
because it was, it was very spacious between ... you wanted
me to find the building and adjoining buildings, I got the
impression that .... closest adjoining buildings were
several hundred yards to the right and left. Took some
finding. And what I had here was a short tree line.
Then I had the building I thought he was in. A little
closer to the road but kind 'o in the background. These
are all trees here. And this was-let's just make the
building this way ... with ... uh..trees but not clustered.
This was like a big back yard and then another cluster
of trees way in here. So the cluster seemed to surround
the building but there was a big open yard. That was
weird because I saw grass there or greenery. There was
a few isolated big trees.
This other building was quite auays and it was something
like this. This was the flat red brick building. The
only peculiar thing to this one was the, the main entrance
was protruded and the gray small columns that, that were
holding this thing down. Ok.
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                 #46 This other building. The yellowish-white building
            was around here someplace and this was peculiar ...
            let's just say number I is where he was; number 2 is
            the red brick building, and number'3 was the yellowish
            white building and the peculiarity with this one ...
            kind 'o strange ...see what it was like ... was that it
            had tall columns, like this, ok, and then there was
            spirals and domes here, someplace. I don't think I
            got a real good shot of that, but got the impression
            of spirals arid domes.
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            wh Ie b un -1; 'o 11 h ' a n h is f
                 a whole bun 'o light, all right, around this c ference
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            51 e .. and 1'1 ra e w as saw i t, it w
            methj n g1j ke ah g co 0
            something like a e military coUfurence omething
            like this. And, -T e, uldn_jjt~ecide. uhile the -impressions
            kept coming back and I, I kept seeing mikes along
            this table. Then I also saw a podium with a bunch of
            mikes here. I uasn't sure whether these guys would go
            to the podium or just answer the questions.ALfirst
                 4 he was at the podium and then it was just round table...
            ... seven or eight guys were sitting down ..... here you
            could see the light reflect in this way but this ..
            completely dark behind him here and they were sitting
            down and sort of monitoring and posing the questi On..
            later on I said it kind 'o ... it generated into a semi nar
            type thing where the, the guys would-uh-at the table
            would, would volunteer stuff and they'd start talking
            about it. This was a round reddish table ..or ... like
            that ... real conference-, -military co~n'~teren`ce table ...
            and they came in clusters.
            Got the impression this kept going on and these guys
            were in clusters of 8 to 10 people. 0k. These were
            all chairs. 0k.
                 #14 That's pretty much it. Is there anything else you can
            think of?
                 #46 That was the..uh..strongest impression-because I was
            concentrating on, on Michael. Initially, it was one of
            terrible boredom. Terrible, terrible boredom. And
            wrestling with the idea of..uh..of landing ashore for
            this thing here which was the reoccurring thing ....
            but, in this, this podium atmosphere there was one of
            extreme relief ... like I say ... got the distinct impression
            that for the first time came to a full realization he
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 of relief that I saw a much happier man. That was
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      #14 Oh. Very good. I'm going to call this the end of
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           REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC7
                (S) The viewer has been exposed to open source news media
           information as well as classified overhead imagery. He knew he
           would be working against the hostage situation in Iran.
           2. (S) At the time of the session, the viewer was told he would
           be trying to locate Michael Metrinko. The viewer was shown the
           attached photograph and asked to locate and describe the surroundings
           of the individual in the photo.
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