Approved For Releas?~ /07: CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 009/08 ORCON/NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT 7- do 2- CLASSIFIED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA REVIEW ON: EXTENDED BY: DIRECTOR, DIA REASON: 2-301c (3 & 6) L --T Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 -J= f"11. Irl _["~ M - Approved For Release Wy 96-00788ROO0800830001-3 .LujU I V Irn 1r_1 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC-36 TIME #14: This will be a remote viewing session for 26 March 1980; mission time is 1400 hours. PAUSE All right #07 the time is now 1400 hours. Your mission for this afternoon is to locate Don Hohman and Bruce German. It is believed that these two individuals are being held hostage at the same location in the U.S. Embassy compound. I want you now to locate German and Hohman. Describe their location to me. PAUSE +05 #07: 1 got a skinny guy, a skinny guy sitting on a floor ..... steps above me. Steps or something +06 above me. Skinny, dark beard, barefooted, T-shirt. PAUSE +08 Looks like...uh... I got feeling of a basement. F Ii of below ground. 1, 1, I've been looking for the ... looking for the other person. I don't see him, but I have the feeling ... that he's ... on the same floor. #14: Are there any other hostages at this location? +10 #07: 1 don't know. I found, found this guy for some reason sitting on the floor leaning up against the wall. His arms look awfully slim, and he looks in pretty bad shape. Dark, dark-colored... uh ... some kind of trouser bottoms ... uh ... T-shirt top. I looked for a bed. I didn't see one. I looked for windows. I didn't see any. I tried to find out how he got here. I saw steps leading up away from me. I assume this space is below ground ................... Wait a minute ......... PAUSE a ri Approved For ReleaSe -z0QWr=%o 3CgA~REOP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 Approved For Release 200 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 0/0-a/0-7-; =BE +14 #07: Nearby ..... Let me see. If I left this space I would go through that door. Facing the door, I'm aware of individual to my left. There's, there's something about a sphere or a globe, globe. Appearance is slightly better than ..... this individual I see appears younger than the other one. He's apparently asleep on his stomach. PAUSE +18 #07: Bearded one ..... has alot of old, old newspapers near him. PAUSE #14: Where is this location on the compound? +20 #07: Ok. I was trying to talk to Don. We're on compound. PAUSE b +22 #07: JIM the uilding. aving trouble seeing ..... 1 g of a window. Looks like brick and it's two-story u u"L"" " c"LL L r th thisbuiiding. n apt ions associa d wi '~pn t know what they are.~ #14: Describe them. #07: Cylinder like shapes ... uh ... seems to be fitted into.....from building into ground below grade. PAUSE #07: Other things seem electrical. Maybe heavy insulators. PAUSE #07: 1 was trying to compare what I see with photographs that I've seen of the compound. I'd better stop that. I'm afraid I'll make it fit. PAUSE #07: Cables associated with this building-, and,something definitely goes below, belovr-tfi_e_~ level. Below the normal floor level. Approved For Release-vijuWWOT %MA-PZDP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 I,[ 7 Approved For Release 20 Om -00788ROO0800830001-3 #07: 1 have a feeling this is not normal to common construction practices. PAUSE #07: I'm, I'm going back to the ..... take a look at Don. #14: All right. PAUSE +28 #07: Second time I've seen a bare light bulb hanging from overhead in the vicinity of Don. I see ....... Dam! I keep seeing this ..... two individuals above with white parka hoods pulled,over their face. I almost crossed in front of lem ...... looking towards Do saw an old Army windbreak ds 0 sa an d~A ndbr w 0 1 r y "I 's an 'n n he a w ink Don type jplp~ anging on the wa . ink Don's f0 g1 9s 0t r g hjm. 1, k J.L t r,jgkt`ieg or foot is bothering him. .. k it b he tin er~ weak h ote his _Oes 0 0f V as to do with one of his toes. Very weak, it some kind 0f blue pr int I thl k I seeg I see some kind of blue print. I thl kg +30 1 think that's some kind of journal. I think s some kind ofjournal I think he's keeping a journal. Must hideit. (h a jou rnal. Mu St hide j . #07: It's weird ..................................... Felt there was a terribly ... uh ... tiny and sailed right into the mist of some kind of electronic components. I saw the capacitors on my left that's bigger than I am ......................... Colored bands around lem, and silver numbers on lem. It must be that ................ They couldn't be that big. I don't know whether this is something to do with what ........ held done his +33 thinking ....... whether that's located in this vicinity. It could be something running through his head. I, I don't know. PAUSE f-e he oth #35 1, 1 just -get-&- e other person v nam90,8fuce. Seems somewhat passiv . oll with mewhat passim I feei ee~ m, ~~6 punch type. Don seems ...... I fee u~ ,':'resisted and has probably brought und e su ering siclsaull ~pn himself. Mental, mentally and physicall PAUSE 3 n A proved. For R eleas.-Q-.2-00,010-8107 CIA-RDPa&O-0-713 oooaooa3OOO4.3- T7 Approved For Release 202g~PT.,;.RIRD?6-00788ROO0800830001-3 #14: Describe his physical harassment. #07: Describe what? #14: You said he brought undue hardship upon himself mentally and physically. What do you mean by physically? +37 #07: His physiual appearance is somewhat emaciated. I sense something wrong with right leg and foot. That is physical. The other individual's appearance is, appears somewhat ...... legs appear a little thin around the kneps,--f,~~ tendons, but is not nearly emaciattd-in appearanc s Don. ~ s ure I feel eith r therp,-is not alot of press re on him or, if ther: is ie is just falling baQk-a-n a ~n ignoring it o does not recognize-,th6t he's under pressured Seems passivg,.,- P #07: You push on Don, he pushes back. I sense that this has made it somewhat rougher on Don. Don almost has the appearance of being in solitary confinement. If I know what that means. The other individual seems to be in somewhat greater comfort. -1-senne that _U1 has, very strong ~ , - ! it feellin-g of responsibil '1L Y. -on--"- know strong awarene --f s str a tha He why I say that. He has Ss o w Is t duty, and responsibi * y. I don't know if that I duty' and_ responsjbl Y. means he.is tryi o communicate with theoutside means he -1 s tryj 0 commu n. or or a e other hostages, or negotiate better or or a e other hostage trea ment. I just feel about Don a sense of trea ment. I iust feel about responsibility. +40 #07: 1 see the bones in the foot. In the ankle again. The right foot. I just assume that is his. I know this doesn't make sense but I feel dampness. I would think that this-area would be very low on humidity, but I sense dampness. Maybe that will isolate this place. #14: 1 have no further questions about Don or Bruce, but I would like you, before parting the compound to take a bird's-eye view, and locate this building that they're in for me. 4 rn r~ ~r Approved For Releas~~bagt~kTJY-%.='k-RDP96-00788ROO08008,30001-3 Approved For Release 4= -i'tDP96-00788ROO0800830001-3 - Whk L-W IN L. 1 +44 #07: 1 believe it is near what mess. I saw where you mal