Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000250001-4 E C R E T GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH DATED:051630ZJUL78 REVIEW ON: NOT RELCAS~TkT-ijLg-ft NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 :1a ORCON 1000250001&, Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000250001-4 SUMMARY ANALYSIIIJ REMOTL VINING OV) SLSSTON D-66 1. (S/N0FORN) "[his report documents a remotc viewing session conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC. The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in Iran. 2. (S/NOF"ORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence datap and, as such, have not beet. subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the reqLICStor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (5), undated. 4. (SAOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the targeL site. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the remote viewer. 5. (S/NOFORN) The viewer was asked to locate Thomas L. Ahern and describe his location. The viewer reported Ahern as being located in a multi-story building, possibly in Teheran, Iran, with five other hostage personnel (not further identified). The viewer felt that the rooms were hotel like, or more exclusive, similar to efficiency apartments. Hostage and guard positions are indicated on drawing #4. 6. (S/NOFORN) This session was conducted concurrently with session D-65. Approved For Release 2000MIol't,-;%i-..O,~"X-IW02UMI,4 ORCON Approved For Release 2000/08/07 :qRARRD 7 Omf%f% 000250001-4 b_j7 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-66 TIME #66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1030 hours, 01 getr&M-1980. Relax and concentrate now, relax and focus your attention on Thomas Ahern, whose photograph I have shown you. Locate Thomas Ahern at the present -time, locate Thomas Ahern at the present time. Move your awareness to his location now and describe his surroundings to me. +01 #01: Light blue walls. Very regular furniture like a hotel room. Bed, dresser drawers, small desk ... wood floor. #66: 1 didn't understand. #01: 1 got a wood floor. Wide boards ............ Metal door.... +03 Saw a flat roof on the building. PAUSE #66: Describe Ahern himself at present. #01: Ah ... he is reading, sitting by a lamp and he is reading. #66: Is he alone? #01: He is all alone. There's, ah ... other rooms with other hostages. #66: What is it that you are sensing that makes you say this? #01: s like a row of rooms all identical, all the same room, ke in layout. Corridor...rooms on both sides, it's like thr loors and there is a cement grill or a cement grill design. #66: On which floor are these hostage rooms? #01: Second floor. #66: Describe the number of host -49 +06 #01: Ah... just a minute.gere( ... ~Si building is wing shaped, it's like a wing. of a grill pattern in the cement. #66: Describe the location of this grill pattern. r"14 r" 1~% M , _717 Approved For Release 2000/08R_-N;AY-D~ 1 7 8R001 000250001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA P,[)M= __ - . 50001-4 gMn #01: It's all on one side of the facing wing, it's vertical, there isp ah ... ah ... cover of ... cover of canvas on the other side of the wing ... more like a porch. It's like, ah ... yellow building, the building is yellow. There's a parking area, two inter- secting walls by the other wing, by the other part of the wing. er #66: Remember all t Lyou are perceiving so that you might draw ~b a" t r me er. it for me er. A eaccess the area of the hostages and des- guard 1 cribe 9 ard force situation at this time. I e #01: Ah.. two i e interior hallway. twos #66: What floor? #01: Just a minute ............ There is one on a landing, open sided banding, with a low wall ... goes e is, n e is a There is MID -e--re-o-ple' on the ground floor but - -re I o r:b7u t 0of t~he L?is armed, he is like inside of the de : ~,~._The~reis~u_qt ~_qtai~rs. #66: All right. Move over the building now and describe the sur- rounding area. #01: Wait ... winged going end ... ah... intersecting 'IT" shaped paved area with an adjoi'ning walls. There is a tree garden area facing the walls. Parking, parking area in the rear with an access road. Two access roads, one is an alley way, I guess, very small, narrow, road between walls, and the other road is the main road, but with a hedge. It's all hedge, some kind of green. #66: DOYQLL_-Pecntffi-1-z_e -thin -area? ' I 's all #01: N 'tt I ... it's not familiar ... I feel like it's ~iimjgkeran Qiough. ----- ---- #66: What is it that you are sensing that makes you say this? #01: /1 don't know...I don .... I feel like it's close to wh_e_r~e "..."Yere a lot of 6therAmericans at one time. #66: Is this building on the compound? #01: No. It's like in a residential area, though. Ah, diplomatic residential area. Big homes, very private homes...walls ... +14 lot of walls ........... Close to a ... close to a big hospital or a ... school or something...a very large building with, ah ... a lab type people in ... or nurses or something ... people wearing white. #66: This is a building that's close to the other building? #01: Perhaps three blocks away. 2 Approved For Release 2000/08/0 f*4*xjk%*UVhrV WO 001000250001-4 000250001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 9 #66: Ohv I see, all right. #01: Shaped like a "Y". PAUSE #66: All right, I have no further questions about this particular target, but I would like you ... to provide you the opportunity at this time to comment as you see fit. PAUSE I will wait. +15 #01: Looks very much like ah...motel of some kind. Not unlike one you would find in CONUS somewhere. But it is a very, ah... we ... ah ... private type motel. Exclusive type. It's for long term guests, possibly some kind of a rest home or something... that nature. I don't have anything else. #66: All right, I want you to review once again the imagery that you had, especially the exterior of the building and it's loca- tion ... ah-inrelationship to it's surroundings and when you are ready 1 want you to draw those perceptions that you had. #01: Okay. This is page one. I'm going to try and work this from the outside - in I think and start by doing an overview and work my way inside. #66: All right. #01: This building,street~wise, I got a feeling like there was these residential streets going like Ind this big la~ type building .It's either a lab or a ho en back or three blocks away, mid-way which this building lay-back this ... the wider ones going DOL ~tto t bottom. Lo~ sL1 'what 01 or whatever it was 1 here. ev J_ t w '7t : ___ = hing where thing where le here ab 0u t ml _wav. like here about ml -way, like two )etween streets was the area in ~~- I e~~eeling lik_e-.-t+Kw,!Ttroets were canted off of north, 5uknow, like if thatLeas north the streets were kind of ow, ~ turned a 45 degree angle from true north, you know, instead Qf_4LLaL_y_v.u__might -rmrth -and south, east and west. And that all of the rest of it was broken up into residential area. And little tiny alleyways that went up and down like this, between the houses, where they Would pick up garbage and that kind of stuff. It's like this. And these were broken up into large residQLltial lots, with the, ah... big formal drive\p-ye~~hat sort of s!-G-rf-.-_, So, on pag(one "A" is the target building and "B" is t-Rht I type buildiMrrr-_11_11_._darkeri a1L_aL_thqt_-in. in a few minutes and ..... looking at the target and doing the lay'06-1-a-s-787401" 3 (t, '2~ ~~ -IA , 1.~ r-~ Approved For Release 2000/08/07 1-1-00250001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RD .P96*-00.788RGG_1,.000250001-4 #01 the page ... page two being the square. I feel like the entrance was at the bottom of the page and sort of did this sort of thing. Like a wing with a blunt nose and a formal covering that came out like that with a covering that came back here ... There was a large awning area over here, flat roofed, this was a-like a turn around area. Parking area. With a park- ing area over here in the back. This sort of thing. And this was the entrance down here and this paved area had an access back here, it was like a small alley type of road that went like this, and it was like a, a ... access road that came in like that from the alley. And then there was a .... was a wall that went down, down this ways a very tall wall like concrete wall, gate back here to get in, and a-then the wall went also like this, trying to figure out how this inter- locked ....... and angled off this way ... and that this was all trees out here and garden. This ... this is all garden-and trees. And this part down here had a very large hedge that went away on both sides. It had a very private and secluded type feeling to it) this being a gate, and then this building page three, looking at this building sort of like from the direction of the arrow on page two that I will draw, like from the ... the gateway, we'll call that view, on page two. Looking at it from that view I got a feeling like it was also, like it was a hill in there. Hill type of effect, this being three floors. Ah-let's see ... and this driveway went up here like this, and this parking area was like up on a raised portion. Came down here like this ... and went out, this was a turn circle like area here, and then the-this grassy thing kind of went up like this, and there was ... this walkway went sort of like this, and this is a covered walkway. This I'm going to have to do a little better job on when I get through, because it doesn't make a lot of sense, unless it's done exactly right. Arid then the other wing of the build- ing which you can't see went back that way like that. Then another driveway, like that. And there was actually 'three floors to this building, and there was an exterior, some kind of a ... some kind of a exterior box shape on the rear of it, it had a low retainer wall on each floor and a Support columns, sort of like that, with a roof, and, ah ..... some kind of stairs interconnecting it, they went like this, ah ... went down like that and then down like that. Oh yeah, it didn't go all of the way down to the bottom because down here there was just a wall that was up under the overhang of the building, and a door in the wall, like a servant's en- trance or something like that arid these were all trees up here. Oh, and the design ~Ww~ on the face of eac design in conZc 41'e is there is on wa, 9 was a~ Approved For Release 2000/08/07 was like this in two places i ~ 'eo f U"thi el was ~bui this lattice work And the reason why iNtood out so well like a hollow,&f-fect-Tro this building iMR~000250001-4 rA- - _1~ 'r Approved For Release 2000/08/07 RP 01~r 000250001-4 L- %.of I X " I #01: back here like this, as if there were some very small ledges NNW built into the design or the building. That type of effect so that the, ah-the windows were back away from this lat- tice work desi n T , e weren't a lot of rooms on each floor, t ere oni T e wer en -ta floor' ~th-ere like four or five rooms on each floor but all of he oMsV/ c 0 iv r but a 11 0 f h e l i four r f 0 )Ai wer Aden in hofe _jCa , were iderLlt* 1 something a little more than hote rooms, t i Cal you know, more like efficiency like apartments nd that kn ore n you ow t m tJt-looked -lilk e . Page four. As You look at the building, comes in two wings, second floor, there is a ... like a, ah-an opening here that's S, and there is a, ah ... stairs going tip and stairs going n. There is a small hallway on each side. I felt like Vthese first five rooms right here, or six rooms were occupll.~ #66: 1 understand that you are saying that there e si ages all together. #01: Yeah, and they are all grouped on the second floor an the wi g closest to the entrance way. #66: All right. #01: And, ah... I'm going to have to change that a little bit 'cause I felt like they were occupying that entire wing, so there is no more than six rooms to a wing on each floor, and, ah... this end over here, I got the feeling where this overhang was, was probably a kitchen or something, a lounge area and a kit- chen and everything. I can even draw a picture of that because that might be very visible from the other side, which would be more of a surreptitious area. Side... I got a feeling liko looking at that wing the building looked the same as from the other direction, difference being that the ground actually came Out right like this, and there was this porch like area that came out. Like that. And this was all glass doors, and this had an awning type thing coming out ... coming out like this. Not exactly at that angle ... well ... more at an angle like that. That being the top of the wall, into a gate, with the driveway that went in the back. It's like a patio. And that's really about it, I guess. #66: Okay. Can you indicate on the appropriate drawings the rooms where the hostages were and the guards positions that you per- ceived? #01: Oh, okay. Ah ... going back to page four. The 'W's are where the hostages were we'll put an "V in the center of each of the rooms the hostages were in, and I perceived a "G", I'll use "G" for guard. Guard on the outside stairs, guard here, guard here, and there were a lot of people down on the ground floor, and there was only one guard, we will put him on number 5 Approved For Release 2000/08/07t--Ol 250001-4 Jjljb~Agh'A Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA. 250001-4 #01: three (page), and he was like in the front by the front door. The guard being here. Wherever 'there is a 11G" there is a guard. There just seemed to be a lot of people milling around downstairs. #66: Okay, and you thought that one of the guards was armed, you said. #01: The guy ... they were all armed. Except downstairs front, there was the only one armed was the guard by the door. The rest of the people could have been guards but they were just milling around. #66: What you're saying is that all of the 11G11 personnel did have weapons, and that there were other people downstairs milling around ..... #01: Right ... Right ..... #66: Which you did not perceive to have weapons. And they Were not hostage personnel, I assume. #01: No. I feel like this is some kind of a ... it... I keep wanting to call it a motel, but that's not what it is. #66: Okay. #01: So it ... you know ... it's like a ... ah ... some kind ofa specialized place. That's used as a motel, but it is not a motel. I don't know what it is. L.011~ #66: Okay. #01: But I felt like it was in a very classy residential area ...... #66: Now did you get a ..... #01: That was a diplomatic residential area before. #66: Okay. Did you get any feeling about these six hostages -that you, ah ... perceived? We spent considerable time on the phy- sical location, not scanning the people themselves, so do you have any feeling about the.._,Qjx people? #01: The only 0thepf6eling ah...was..(~oe person, hair, very ng hair, shaven, ea 1y fifties, only thing have, the that I have on any oTf-tMe- stages was about -five foot nine, very sylver gray iarrow, no board, no mustache, clean fifty two, fifty three, that's the only thing familiaS,-... #66: Okay. #01: Thin. Approved For Release 2000/08/04ci. 1 1000250001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 :CIA.--. 00250001-4 En #66: Anything else you would like to add then? #01: No. #66: Okay. Fine. 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(S/NOFORN) The remote viewer has been working on the, hostage situation for a number of months and has been exposed to a myriad of information both classified and open source. 2. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the viewer was shown the attached picture and told that his job was to locate and describe Ahern's surroundings. NOT RELEASABLE TO-FOREIGN TIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000250001-4 SGFOIA3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000250001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000250001-4