Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 SECRET GRILL FLAME PROGRAM SESSION REPORT CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH DATED:051630ZJUL78 REVIEW ON: Q! vow GRILLFLAME NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS ID """ Approved For Release 2000SEQRf PV6-00788 ROO 1 690*0t-f--k Approved For Release 2000/ stt4va 0788ROO1000260001-3 SUMMARY ANALY5TS REMOIE VIEWING (RV) SESJSJ0r4 D-67 1. (S/NDFORN) This report documents a remote viewiny session conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC. The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in Iran. 2. (S/N0FORN) The remote viewer's impressions of Lhe target are provided as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NDFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (5), undated. 4. (S/NOFORN) Fullowing is a transcript of Lhe viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the torgut site. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the remote viewer. 5. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer was asked to find Robert Englemann and des- cribe his location. The viewer described Inglemann as being in an official government building with many columns. This building was located adjacent to a unique-looking square with a monument of sorts in the center. The viewer felt that small groups of hostages were being brought here at intervals for interviews/interrogation. Approved For Release M06WA04- MW 1000260001-3 ORCOIN Approved For Release 2000/08/ 1 - -00788RO01 000260001-3 01 L It L~ I TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-67 TIME #14: This will be a remote viewing session for 2 October 1980. Mission time is 0900 hours. All right, #46, the time is now 0900 hours. Your mission for today is to find Robert Englemann. I want you to describe his location. I want you to identify any other U.S. hostages at this location, and I also want you to des- cribe the physical security. I want you to relax. Relax. Concentrate. Focus on Robert Englemann. PAUSE +02 #46: This is like a ...... some sort of a city square... It's like a .... something you'd... I guess you would see around Rome ............ Something circular in the center of the square. It's like a .... it's like a fountain, but it's not a fountain ... Some sort of column ... column, at the base of which is something like dark... Black leaves, like falling oak from the base of the column ... entire...is in cement there is stairs that go up from one plateau to the next. And where I originally picked him up is ... in one of the, uh, buildings. Like on the second level of this thing. And there are col- unuh-._iz_fx_ont .-of_ thi-9-bu i I din Q ... cement columns ........... +05 h, this is a, uh ..... it's a government building that dea_p_,~ ls Lh th with law and legalities .................. The dominant fea- th aw ure of -that building is a huge ......... room, like a court.. ture 0f I He would be in the, uh, second floor in the right wing type... area.... I think he's one of ....... there are interviews going on in that place ... Think that they take them there in small groups-they interview 'em on ... one on one basis ...... +10 There's no pressure there, there's just legal interviews. They're being well treated there.... There's an impression of black robes like European lawyers wear. These are the people who are doing the interviews ............... the rooms that they're being interviewed in are very, a very high ceil- ing, the walls are full of books, like they're antechambers, I guess you call lem. #14: Are there any other U.S. hostages here? #46: Uh-huh ................. Yeah, this is a .... this has been going on for several days ......... I don't think they stay Approved For Release 20owdQ9C. QXWA 788ROO1000260001-3 %.,01 L. NJ I % Approved For Release 2000M4" 88ROO1000260001-3 %a L.%j #46: there overnight... I -think these interviews have been going on in earnest and systematically, and not in a routine man- ner. This is a earnest effort to.... to determine-factual evidence. This is gonna nerve as a basis ... for some type of ..... for Lis to acknowledge ..... the results of these inter- views ................... I see a, during the interviews the, two guys inside the room (mumbling) because they're riot well dressed.... I think the truck drove her there arid there's at least four guys for the two individual .... Think they're taking them and then return to where they came from .......................... He's interviewed lem... less than ... I don't know .... three +15 days, I think, in his case... I see emphasis is on-good treatment .... factual legal gathering of evidence .......... / +20 1, uh ....... The lady with the head covering is the inter preter ....... She's there because of, she's there to bring an element of ... sincerety, an element of natural sympathy there. She's, she's usled extensively ....... I don't have anything else ....... #14: Okay, I want you to focus very intently on Robert Englemann. What is he doing right now? #46: He's being interviewed. He's been interviewed for three days, three of four days ....... #14: Okayt I have no further questions. Is there anything else you'd like to add? .......... #46: No ....... 'This is ... this is if ... as if .... decision had been made within the past three or five days arid that, these inter- views are gonna be conducted and they're gonna form a basis for this paper or whatever. I think ... this is what we ul- timately will have to acknowledge-form the basis of what we're going to have to .... acknowledge... I don't have any- thing else. #14: Okay. We pause now for debrief. All right, we're now ready for debrief. #46: Yeah, in this, in this sketch I wanna label number 1. I'll give you the overview of the picture that I had. That stayed with me until I gave it to you. And my attention was first focused on a little circular fountain-or monument, that's in this section hnTT-7-75d then I'll draw this separately. It's either ... or a fountain here. And around this place it's a whole bunch of stairs, all cement. This is all white. Any beyond that some more stairs. And these are all kind of plateaus, all cement. And in this huge circle of buildings. And this is where I found this building, and it was pre- dominantly with columns. Okay? Arid there are buildings low 2 Approved For Release 20gM=ff% irll%k W&MrD-00788 ROO 1000260001-3 %.) L.%j I N L. I Approved For Release 200 rarZ~'%KO0788RO01 000260001-3 Y"-.- #46: adjacent to that. This is where, this is where he is. #14: Mm-hmm. #46: Okay, here, in the, like the center of the square ......... like I said, looks like a fountain, but it's not. It's like a monument. You know, I'll draw it around the side here in the lower left corner. It just came straight down. It's not that high. But it was characterized by kind of leaves coming out of here. Something. This was very dark ... and black. I wanna say foliage, it's not. It's some- thing that is erupted from the base or this column here. That's where this is. Okay. Let me give somebody an insight as to where it is. I don't know. I think I talked about the legal characters ... characteristics, impression of this build- ing that I saw. Okay. Anything else? #14: No, I don't think so. I think that oughta do it. for the drawing. #46: Okay. #14: End of session. 3 MP Approved For Release 200bfOhYtlF-%r96-00788ROO1000260001-3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 I I I TAB ----J1 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 \Ij Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 Approved. For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP§6-00788RO01 000260001-3 1 I-- TAB Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 Approved For Release 200 §&7t_;,,q14fQ"6-OO788 ROO 1000260001 -3 - LAJ U\ L. I TARGET CUING INFORMATION -up", IftPo' REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-67 1. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer has been exposed to open source news media information as well as classified overhead imagery and numerous photographs of hostage personnel. Ile know he would be working against the hostage sit- uation in Iran. 2. (S/NOFORN) At the time of this session the remote viewer was shown the attached photograph and was asked to find Robert Englemann. He was asked to describe Englemann's location, identify and other hostage personnel, and describe security at this location. NOT RELEAA rW_qFffVATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 DP96-00788RO01 000260001-3 SGFOIA3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1000260001-3