low Approved For Release 2000/08/07 88ROO1200190001-9 E T MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD SG1 I 1. (C) BACKGROUND: NSA has been sending a representative as an. unofficial observer to the DoD GRILL FLAME meetings for some time. However, been an active partner in the GRILL FLAME effort. Recently,. SG11 had been-directed by the-DIRNSA to have the NSA Scientific Advisory Committee study the current DoD program and to make a recommendation as to whether or not NSA should support the current DoD effort. proceeded to SG11 arrange a series of briefings for this committee to include: SG1 I a. CIA presentation b. DIA presentation SG1J c. SRI-I presentation - Dr. Puthoff d. INSCOM presentation - LTC Watt e. Unofficial presentation - CDR Stewart 1 September 1981 SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME Briefing for NSA Scientific Advisory Committee, 28 August 1981 (U) 2. (U) . I presented a two-hour briefing to the committee on 28 Aug 81. Following personnel were present: SG11 - Host NSA (Tech Applications & Advancement) Dr. Willis Ware, Chairman, NSA Scientific.Advisory Committee Rand Corporation, Santa Monica, California Dr. James Burnett, Member of Committee An V~ TRW Dr. Ronald Wigington, Member of Committee Director, R&D Chemical Abstract Services SG1 I Member of Committee Re red from NSA (former Crypto Manager) SG1 I CDR Jake Stewart Office of Naval Intelligence IwT RUAMLIGN NAZIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1200190001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96 8ROO1200190001-9 7P I ~ff -SEC LTC Robert Jachim INSCOM LTC Murray B. Watt INSCOM 3. (U) Inclosure I provides the outline of the presentation I gave them. 4. (C) I showed the committee several examples of our finished products including complete details on how we conducted our sessions. Further, I passed a-round selected samples of GRILL FLAME evaluations that we have received from consumers. (See our TOP SECRET eval file.) I stressed that our effort was not research and development, but strictly operational in nature. 5. (U) I would say that the committee received the presentation.with an "open mind" attitude. Their questions and keen interest demonstrated that they were trying to search out the answers to a very puzzling,problem. 1 Inclosure As stated (S) Regraded CONFIDENTIAL when separated from SECRET inclosure NOTED je, /7941& -Al COL MILLER 1~ 1AY ;B - ~~ j~~, ~ WA T LTCt M INSCOM GRILL FLAME Project Manager 2 SECRET Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1200190001-9 40 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-0078BROO1200190001-9 P R 0 G R A M D E V E L 0 P M E N T T, I m E E -V E N T OCT 78 - DEC 78: ORGANTZAITIONAL DE`u,ELOP,1!E-\1-i DEC 78 - FEB 79: SCR~FNING & SELECT TO% r- - L OF PERSONNEL APR 79 - OCT 79: IN-HOUSE TRAINT!%C HAY 79 - DE C 79: 'SPI ORIEiNTATIO, NOV 79 - PRESEN T: OPERATIONAL T BASKING JAN 80 - PRESENT: TASK FORCE ESTABLISHED AUG So MOVE TO NEW FACILITY NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS or Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1200190001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO12 SECRE"T AS OF 26 JUNE 1981 TASKING ORGANIZATION'S HQ, USAINSCOM NSC J1cS ACSI/AM-3AA CIA SG1H 9G2D f-III"r !TAC USA OPS GP NO. OF PROJECTS NO. OF SESSIONS 2 5 3 18 3 227 9 65 25 109 2 11 3 9 14 120 3 TOTALS: 64 575 NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788RO01SEIW-' Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788RO01 AS CF 26 JUNE 1981 SUK14ARY OF SESSIONS TRAINING 207 OPERATIONAL 575 P R OJI E CT S64 *A. COMPLETED: 51 B. WfORKING: 12 C. INACTIVE: 1 INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED: A. USEFUL DATA PROVIDED 24 PROJECTS B. FAILED TO HELP 24 PROJECTS r'. DATA Sj'T LL BEING STUDIED CONCERNING 16 PROJECTS *INCLUDES ONE PROJECT CANCELLED. NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO12ma-1, Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO T EXCERPS FROM CUSTOMER EVALUATIONS: ITAC: There were a few.spectacular reports ... the project confirmed with uncanny accuracy the presence of a recently constructed major ditch array and the number and type of elite units in a remote garrison area. CIA: In sum~ou:rexperience with GF, thus far, tends to strengthen the validity of the techniques involved and also indicates that its greatest utility as an operational tool may be in the CI field. 7 JCS: In 16 out of 18 cases GF sources described the facility in sufficient detail to allow positive identification. ITAC: I would also like to compliment you and your personnel on achieving an intelligence community "First." SG1H JCS: Therefore, it is the judgement of this analyst that extensive testing and development of control procedures be accomplished before any final assessment of the value of GF material can be made- Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96.-OO788RO01; 0