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      3 November 1978
      MEMO FOR THE RECORD
      SUBJ: GRILL FLAME Meeting at Aberdeen - 2 Nov 78
      1. On 2 Nov 78, INSCOM GRILL FLAME Project Officer, Maj Watt, met with the
      following Army Material Systems Analysis Activity (AMSAA) personnel to discuss
      AMSAA involvement in Remote viewing:
                  John Kramar (GS-16) - Asst Dir for Systems Effectiveness and Joint
      Service Activities
      COL Albert DeProspero - Deputy Director, AMSAA
      Lynne Taylor - GRILL FLAME Project Leader (AMSAA)
      Scott Phillips - Air Weapons Division
      Brit Harrison - Foreign Intelligence Office
      Dan Murdock
      NOTE: Scott Phillips is one of the SUBJECTS in the AMSAA GRILL FLAME Project.
      2. k1r, John Kramar presented a two-hour orientation briefing on AMSAA involvement
      with parapsychology phenomena. This included a brief historical summary of
      paranormal activities.
      3. Lynne Taylor, GRILL FLAME Project Leader, AMSAA and Scott Phillips then
      briefed me on the status of the project they are running. In short, they are
      conducting a series of experiments attempting to validate results that were
      provided by Stanford Research Institute (SRI) on a series of remote viewing
      exercises. They were conducting an exercise that afternoon and I was invited to
      go with the "Outbound" team.
      4. Remote Viewing Exercise: Briefly, it consisted of the "Outbound" team
      receiving a sealed envelope containing a fixed location within a 30 minute ride
      of AMSAA headquarters. The envelope was not opened until after the "Outbound"
      team (of which I was a member) left Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Once we knew
      the:location, we still had to drive around until 30 minutes had elapsed. At the
      designated time, we arrived at the "Test" l6cation and walked around the area.
      We stayed at the "test" location for 15 minutes and then returned to AMSAA.
           Meanthile, the SUBJECT was being interviewed by the Inbound Experimenter.
      Their conversation was taped and available for later screening. The SUBJECT
      attempted to describe the area where the Outbound Team had gone. Neither the
      SUBJECT nor the Inbound Experimenter had access to the sealed envelope.
           Although the results still have to be analyzed by AMSAA personnel, I would
      say that the experiment was partially successful. The SUBJECT was able to provide
      some information concerning our location and the surrounding environment. However,
      certain control measures and other facets of the experiment need further
      exploration. I discussed my views with the AMSAA personnel.
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      5. Lynne Taylor is going to send me a copy of the 11work contract" that is
      being drawn up which will outline what SRI will undertake for INSCOM.
      6. Lynne Taylor concurred that AMSAA would be able to provide space, limited
      as it may be, for me to conduct screening interviews with INSCOM personnel
      as we develop our program.
      7. We all agreed that next step was for me to contact SRI and set up time
      to go visit them in order to receive in-depth orientation/training in remote
      viewing exertises.
      8. 1 want to note that all AMSAA personnel were extremely helpful and
      provided outstanding support throughout the visit.
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      ~3. WATT
      MURRAY
      MAJ, MI
      GRILL FAME PROJECT OFFICER
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