SG1A Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 Next 2 Page(s) In Document Exempt Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 :SaEI-00788ROO1600130002-0 INTERVIEW 66: This will be a CENTER LANE interview for 6 January 1983. The time is 1000 hours. Focus your attention now on the building in the photograph I have shown you. As you do, move your awareness to the inside and describe the activities in the interior of this building to me. 08: The top floor,..higher stories... in the right wing, right front and extending to the right wing ... as if a...what I see there is a...computer type console, with a bunch of little bulbs...There's a diversification for their use. There's a ... heavy impression about ... the weather, meteorology ... This kind of bugs me, so I got to say it. This is a..east, the building is in the east,...east European country. It's a ... there's a heavy soviet financial sponsorshop. There's a token soviet presence. With the entire operation's run by-the nationals of the country, with a-- 66: Describe the interior areas of the building to me. 08: There's a middle-midsection of the right front wing are classes, classroom. 66: Describe the impression which makes you say classrooms. 08: Oh, open windows, conference type things, pointers,..glass inclosures, like a place where series are discussed and before being put into practice in some other section of the building ... It's instructional, but it's not a college or an institute, it's not even university type..It's..The scientists.. giving or receiving knowledge and (4pplying that knowledge-experiment type.. atmosphere ... to do research, applied sciences I thinks. 66: Move through the building and describe the areas of the building and the activity in those areas, to me. 08: 1 see.... this is too vast for me to call at one time,...the first floor's Tight front is an impression of a lot of glass... tubes and weird shaped bottles, associated with chemistry or something. 66: Okay, move to other areas and describe briefly others. areas of -the building. 08: Above that is administration, above that classrooms, conference rooms and above that the electronic gear, computer type electronic gear, that's the right front. 66: Decribe areas to the left, to the left wing of the building. CLASSIFIED BY: MSGtDAMI-ISH DIG: 051630ZJUL78 DECL: Origination Agency's NOT RRY1,EASABLE TO FOPEIGN NATTONALS Determination Required IT __4 IV Approved For Release 2000/08/08 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 ~~3 tr Fijg: R Er - Ir Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 08: That left wing, left frontg the general impresssion is that this is .... it has a school atmosphere, a mixture of school and government an administrative offices. Although..there's a continuation of the same impression..that the very top floor's are still dedicated to research and stuff, although it's dimmer there. 66: Describe for me the activity on the top floor's left wing. 08: It's a very somber place ... Something about heavy, dark curtains and shields ... like-- 66: Describe the impression that makes you say this. 08: It's energy activity that can, ..can hurt people if it's not shielded. Has to do with high energy vibrations if you wish. 66: Describe the impression that makes you say this about that image. 08: It's like ... the area of concern ... It has to do with high energy ... frequencies.... It's the somber atmosphere and the heavy curtains, and the protection. They're related to high energy frequencies. 66: Now, from the top floor, left side, move to the top floor, extreme right wing and describe the top floor, extreme right wing, activity and locations. PAUSE 08: By comparison, this is a research area, but it's primitive. Impression is one of old..telephones, earphones and wires that are brown covered~ wires that were used before the coil wire for telephones. It's as if it were a basic course-in electricity and communications or something. 66: Okay, now the floor just beneath the tpp floor, just under that one, describe the activity of that one. 08: Classrooms. 66: Classrooms is a label, describe the room to me. 08: Older professors instructing ... college type students there, in basic electricity and electronicsl..just classroom. 66: Okay. In this side of the building begfore, you mentioned you thought you had an area of computers. From where you are now in which direction is this room? 08: The computers are in the, right front, facing the street, those directions we agreed upon. 2 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 Approved For Release 2000/OMM" )r-RDP96-00788RO01 600130002-0 66: All right. Lhave no further questions. I'd like now to allow you a few moments to explore this building and comment as you see fit. Do so now. 08: This is a self sustaining building here,..about three or four cafeterias. There are quarters. It's a real mixture..of an.. administrative kind of bureaucracy, ... school instructions, from great sophistication to very basic things ... A wide range of undertaking from most basic. coL[rses~,tQ--tli-ghly-.--sopbiEjticated- _R&D type stuff going. I don't have anything more. 66: All right, fine, thank you. 3 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 Wo 'Approved For Release 2000/08/08 OW -00788RO01 600130002-0 DRAWING EXPLANATION 08: To give perspective to arQas.-- of the building mentioned in the session, we agreed that that portion of the building facing the street or road would be the front which.. is separated as in the picture by a gap in the right portion of the front of the building. So the computer area that I'm talking about is in the front right wing, which I've so labeled. The dark somber area, with the gray and black curtains in protection afforded against high energy emitting things, is in the left front wing of the building. The area labeled right wing which is 90 degrees or adjacent to the front right wing isywhere the basic courses in basic electronics and electricity were being given.. I sort of glanced at the rear portion of the building and got a quick impression of quarters for staff and faculty there, but I didn't really look at that too intensely. It was just a passing impression. I really did not ~Au~y that area too well, but there were, I had the impression P ere were quarters for faculty and staff there. I think the other stuff is pretty self explanatory. I did not go to the left wing, extreme left wing, at least I don't recall going to the extreme left wing. 66: Okay. Why don1ty-o-ukind of put a either brackets or big circle and put area not explored or something like that. 08: Okay. That's all I have, unless you have some questions. 66: Okay. That's.fine. Thank you much. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 "Approved For R2.& elea6FI2 PT080*gDRfl&97)8AFLQ9loyl3OOO2-0 .2 AmmoPk *44OW 1 k Ilk PIC %e Q,;- 11kc "AM 1%r 4990000"' X Z, to IV Approved For Release 2000/08/08 CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600130002-0 IA-RDP96-00788P,001 600130002-0 AGENT REPORT For use of this form, sea FM 30-17(C); AR 381-130; the Proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE Of INCIDENT -27 D-AT-E--SURM-17ED SG1A SG1A In 6 January 1983, Source CL-08 Source stated subsLanLially a 3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER was interviewed concerninq follows: Source describe(.] the interior of the building which lie felt was in all cast European counLry~- Source reporLed that the building had a heavy 5oviet financial sponsorship, token Soviet preset-ice, and that nationals of the country ran the entire operation. Source stated that this was a self ,.~,I.jstaining building with about three or four cafeterias and quarters. .A01,11-CO stated that this building had a real mixture of an administrative kind of bureaucracy; school instructions, from great sophistication to the very basic and a wide range of undertaking, from the most basic cmirses to highly sophisticated research and development. 1he left F'ronL Wing had a school atmusphere, a mixture of school, government, and administrative offices. The very top floor, however, was dedj.r~ated to some ,-,orL of high energy research. This research activity required shielding to protect personnel. The research had to do with high energy vibrations or Frequencies. [his area Was described as being a very somber place. The Front Right Wing first floor was art area in which there were many ql8SS tubes and "weird shaped" bottles, associated uith chemistry or some ather unknown. Above this First floor was an administration area. Above the administration area were classrooms and/or conference rooms. In this areN discussions were held concerning acLivities to be conducted in same other section of the building. In this area scientists were exchanging I knob ~ilcdgc and applying that' knowledge in an experiment Lypo atmosphere to do research. Source Lhought this area to be involved in applied sciences. Above the classroom/conference room area was an area which contained electronic equipment, to include computer type electronic equipment. The computer type console was described as having a front with multiple light bulbs. 5ource did not describe the Left Wing of the building and no further amplifying informal-ion was obtained from Source Idurinq this interview. Attached hereto is EXHIBIT 1, a drawing provided by 5ource concerning Lite areas described above. CLA551FILD BY: MSG,DAMI-ISH 1) 1 G, :051-630ZJUL78 OLUL: Origination Agency's Determination Required 5. TYPED NAME AND ORGANIZATION Of SPECIAL AGENT 6. 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