Approved For Release 2000/06bikb- tERDP96-00788RO01 600270001-6 IAGPA-F-SD 26 April 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - CL-1000/8302/08 (U) 1. (SINOFORN) On 210900 April 1983, source #08 was interviewed by #66 concerning the third floor of an unidentified building under construction in an attempt to determine if there was any intelligence threat to the area. The project 8302 sponsor had previously provided a schematic diagram of the third floor for use during an earlier interview (CL-997/8302/08, conducted 3 March 1983). For this interview the sponsor provided a photograph, undated but during construction, of the building in question (see Incl 1). 2. (SINOFORN) For this interview source was shown the schematic diagram previously concealed in a sealed envelope and the photograph provided by the sponsor. Source was told that the building was still under construction and that it was being built in a foreign country by foreign workers. Source was asked to focus his attention on the building in the photograph during the construction phase and search out any intelligence threat that he might find. Source was not provided any further data nor was any available to this office. 3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared including a narrative explanation of the drawings which source provided (see Incl 2). 4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. This report related the salient points of the interview. Attached as a exhibit to the DA Form 341 was a copy of source's drawings (see Incl 3). "'Z0&,04 ~/ &W-~ 3 Incl 2FREDERICK H. ATWATER as CPT, MI OPS/TNG Officer CLASSIFIED BY: MSG, DAMI-ISH DTG: 051630ZJUL78 DECL: Originating Agency's Determination Required M011 RBIBASADLZ 10 FOLLIU4 1441IONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/ P96 -00788 ROO 1600270001 -6 SG1A Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600270001-6 Next 1 Page(s) In Document Exempt Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1600270001-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/- oiffijvrl"~I= VU-00788 ROO 1600270001 -6 TRANSCRIPT #66: This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900 hours 21 April 1983. Relax and concentrate now, relax, relax, relax. Focus your attention now on the building in the photograph I've shown you. Focus on the construction phase, time of construction and search the building for threats to security. Do this now. PAUSE #08: ............... The a .... they're most vulnerable,. portion of this a-building that has nothing to do with structure a strong and persistent impression I get is .... a similar to the one, that we did before,..the a ..... the vulnerability is in the a..is in the cable-to the a..electronic system, the communication system. #66: Now describe the routing of this cable. #08: Yeah, there I get a ... a smaller, well ... a cable .... to the-communication system, which is..heavier, bigger than the normal wire that fits into a . . a huge cable, a big cable. And that cable is made of a .... a bunch of a ... of small wires wrapped into this, this .... this white looking-twisting cable. And the cable has ... many functions ...... The vulner.. is .... the vulnerability ..is going to be..outside the building, the backside of the building .... And the cable is going to be buried ... and that's where it can .... can be .... tampered and monitored ........ And the a..... by comparison the ..... small cable that goes to-the electronic. gear, communication gear, is inside that-huge cable, along with other ... wires that are-going to be used to power the building, ... as a power source .... Now I'm gooing ... let me see the building again, see if I see anything else ....... Yeah, beware of a ..... beware of some real primitive monitoring of telephones ..... (mumble) ............... PAUSE Approved For Release 2000/08 0788ROO1600270001-6 I" I~1- 0 A ft M Pnr'T 0 J" rO*8~' Approved For Release 2000/08 *0bP96-00788 ROO 1600270001 -6 #08: Also ......... look f or a ... look for a ........ look for a .... a.a..ah,..a hollow a ... chimney..type a ... is that a ... will be a ... will be located in the a..the chief's room,, the head..of the, of that delegation. It is got ... a cosmetic thing like a..a false fireplace ... with brass, the a...tools ... at the base of the chimney. An impression of ... brick .......... PAUSE #08: 1 see a ... god ..... I see a..garage in the basement and a ..... the a..private automobiles and a..not the official ones, the private owned. A beeping a-beeping, beepers, I guess-they will be attached to the private auto, automobiles, for sure. ....... o ......oAnd I don't see anything in the walls or ... (mumble) ...... I don't have anything unless you do. #66: All right, fine. Remember what you've seen so that you might draw it for me. Approved For Release 2000/08,,-, RDP96-00788ROO1600270001-6 Approved For Release 2000/0WE~M-FlOr-96-00788 ROO 1600270001 -6 DRAWING EXPLANATION #08: Okay, in 6ketch #1, which is entitled cable drawing is to simply give an idea of what I perceived as being the cable, which is a tubular type thing about 3 inches in diameter with many, many smaller wires twisted around one another, that actually form this cable. And within this cable is a wire which is, what can be identified by its width, in that it is a little bit bigger than the other wires within this huge cable. Arid I perceive this cable as being the one that will power the electronic gear that is in that room that we previously described. I saw this cable being buried in the rear of the building, about 3 or 4 feet deep and beyond the building is where I indicated that the point of vulnerability might be, is. So I drew an arrow to indicate the entrance and than the rear of the building, so as not to leave any doubt as to where the cable is going to be buried. #66: Okay. #08: Sketch #2, as I was looking for further vulnerabilities, I just got an image or an impression of the office within the building that is going to to used by the head of this U.S. Delegation and what I've drawn is an overview of the room with the vulnerability point being the chimney, which I get the impression is going simply decorative in nature and not actually used as a fireplace. But I drawn, or I've indicated where it's going to be, in terms of the disposition of the room and then below the overview of the room, short brief sketch of what it should look like in general terms. Do you have any questions on that? #66: Okay. Yea, the vulnerability of the fire place structure is the hollowness? #08: Yes, yes. #66: Okay. I also want to ask you about the a. . basement area. You described the basement area, you said something about cars? #08: 1 perceived the basement area as being a parking area for automobiles, for the people employed, for our people active within that delegation, working Approved For Release 2000/08/08 tybXg -00788ROO1600270001-6 'go, Approved For Release MOO/OvIrju tP!WW&VW-r-9,6W-00788 ROO 1600270001-6 on the third floor. And the only vulnerability that I perceived.was the use of beepers, not on the official automobiles, but on personal automobiles. #66: By beepers, you mean electronics surveillance devices? #08: Homing, homing devices. #66: Homing devices? #08: Yeah, in fact I saw one on a green car, for what that is worth and a sensing of people being very preoccuppied with what they do and being very conscious of what they do. But becoming lax once they come in on their own time and using their own automobiles for whatever. And I say beware of this, don't let your guard down on the personal use of your POVs, because I feel this where they're, you'll probably, you will get hit, for sure. # 6 Okay. Now I want to ask about the construction 6 : phase, as you monitor the construction phase of this, do you see anything that's actually built into the construction that is a vulnerability? # 0 No, no, nothing that would be a, a constructual 8 : weakness and I even took a great deal of time and asked the question repeatedly, to look into the walls during and after construction to see if I could perceive something out of the ordinary, such as, bugs, listening devices by whatever name, by whatever type being embedded or implanted there. And I really saw none. #66: Okay. #08: 1 did mention the telephones and that came up very, very strong and I do think they will be monitored. #66: Okay. Anything else? #08: No. #66: Okay, fine. Approved For Release 2000/0 -00788R001600270001-6 2 Approved For Release 2000/Uot%-, 4.4iii-R-OPGrap-00788 ROO 1600270001-6 INI, ~j Is Q c0 C9 -496 Approved For Release 2000/08~00MD& -OP788ROO1600270001-6 I." Approved For Re3tbm+mr\ .61.Z-WDN6--OOA8RO01 600270001-6 f E I F c54 r/6 IV WINDO W V~ ~Oltk A Approved For Release 2000/08/DtT Q 09r6--00788ROO1600270001-6 Annirinivinrl Fnr PP1Pq-qP gnnn/nR/nR riA-Rnpqr,-nn-i~Rpnnirnn97nnnl-r, AGENT For use of this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-20; the proponent agency is the office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence. 1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT 2. DATE SUDMITTED THIRD FLOOR 3. CONTROL SYMOOL OR FILE NUMBER UNIDENTIFIED BUILDING CL-1010/8302/08 4. REPORT OF FINDINGS On 21 April 1983, Source CL-08 was interviewed concerning the third floor of an unidentified building under construction in an attempt to determine if there was any intelligence threat to the area. Source stated substantially as follows: There was no intelligence threat to the structure during its construction. Source reported that an underground cable (drawing 1) near the rear of the building was vulnerable to HOIS tampering and monitoring. Source reported telephone monitoring as a vulnerability. Source also reported a vulnerability (not further identified) in conjunction with a hollow chimney in a false fireplace (drawing 2) in the "Office of Chief U.S. Delegation." Source was unable to specify why he felt the hollow chimney was vulnerable to a HOIS threat. Source detected a "homing device" on a green, privately owned vehicle (not further identified) located in a parking area for 3rd floor personnel in the basement of the targeted building. No other intelligence threats or security vulnerabilities were reported by Source. No further amplifying information concerning the third floor was obtained from Source during this interview. Attached hereto as EXHIBIT I are drawings provided by Source. WARNING NOTICE: SENSITIVE CLASSIFIED BY: MSG, DAMI-ISH INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND DTG: 051630ZJUL78 METHODS INVOLVED DECL: Originating Agency's NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN Determination Required NATIONALS S. 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