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It's like a It 1.4 i~ row of, row of, it looks JL~~e a half-and-half tiuilding doufn K tNi one 3i.de. Like shops. in the front. _ihe tuiridews ar~ ..... are high, 'high #66 Iedl me. about Jlc~nesl immadiate SUM)Undin~)s, AU Dar2k, dark. roorn wiUh. uh. Lritih tlhrc'rL~ 11 think ..... three ottie,r people . U's dark rc.,'om, like, davk, not ;~v)od, but.,_ dark, dark painL. A brown or tan PEdnt. It 6 6: What's going on here? #01 Don't see any actislity. Helsl he's, 1j,.1t,.e laying on his back, and Lhere's.... twc~ ether people, are cating~ !_ooks zi lot. like the 11.')ack room of' ss_x~'~c kind of a ahip or someth".4q, #66 Whait mk~kes you, say this? ff 01: Vrcnt~ front room has stacks of cans., Some kind of Silvel., +07 cans. 1hat's lotver. This is like split level. room. it's at the erid of a allc:y fir sarnethii-ig. The- ro,,d goes up to the front and it stops, and there's a rioom rull of thes'a silvc~lr r,,ans, and this rooin llkc, upper from thut__ #66 - Oescribr,,~ for foe, the greater Lluilding 7-n wh.Jch t"his room is locat(.Aj and the Position of Uds reeni in -the grr-,ater building. P A 1, PSE 0 1 This 1.9 eiti--,er part of, part. of a very lavge building thatl~-:7, gol-, different. parta or it's sandwiched be-twoon these, curveq curved buildin~.,)s. Approved For Release 2000/08/0w-, 1, "q*97WR002100320001-4 Approved For Release 2000/08/08~&-Vgn- Or88ROO2100320001-4 ,#66 ~ L-3reak that OkAt For me. #01 : Ws like curve, curved wall on, the R~ft .... Curve.(-) i~"Uilding or something, ta,11.1 but it's curved, and there's one like it. Lk,~) the right. it 6 6 C'~o on. #01: And, in the middle is thisv i4L-ls just like entrance- with Can$;, silver cons. This room is in the, jrr~ the back, upper split level. part oF it, NuL. you can unly, only gat thrOUgh the room with thc,! cat-~s. PAUSE +10 #66 Who are these people, with Jones? #01: T i I a -r a I s .. uh... likC tWf), . . - JIM CW. ~YOLA11q, xno of the young ones has a black, beard. Neither, neithcr one lc4oks familia-,E: to me. I JUM, t , . ~ gU~y ku i th the besrti is fair-ly 1:all, and flhefel-, one like early, early middle arjed, 38 ......... like a T-t7,hirt kind of writ.ing no who j.8. W"C11,1f U1 iL, like numbers or something an a Like. , oh. . . he Is clesn cut , shaved. . -geL. ~,~ military impreo,, ion with him. Like-.Athinkiny like at Nla~al Dffj~---ef oi~- 6rown ha-r. Just a Ilgh't. f I-ex of 4 in 'Drown hair . I PAUSE-. #66: Are these people being quar(Jpd? #01~ Yeah. There's .... two old, tw,') old men. . -it looks I ike. and , .... three younger men. Ands tfley're Sit,(-JF1g ~Jtr a t ble it's a counter or a ar somethiing, fby L~w fror,,L, ybe ten g~- sitting antJ ffiere's the younger man, evar~. iww 0 a Cr by the duor. ItIs a lot of' naise here. Like it"o, so-me kind of a shunping are-a or something, Yati kxiow. Like aa lott f actlivi-i-,Y. 6', 6 Tell me some of the noit3eu k!nwu hear. #01. Uhi-don't hear any vel-iicles,, 'It's like a lot (.)F tall.king, E"j-1d tyf)F" or talking, like barg,-.unln(,-~ and the t-,,lank of pnuis, like ba.,,.-kers, selling things. A lot of cloth flu-tLering in the frusit,...Dke~ it's likv- some kind of tent;.-i or overharigs down the Avall cn tNe, left, Very conjosted. . . awayI, auay from this buj.](hng~, a funny dour +15 or onmething uln the fronts like a Uft-Up 1-,Ind of door, like, a garaqe type of dlot.,n . ..... and then z-:1 rogular diaor. 066.~~ Okuy~ Move over, wi overhead vif,-nw now, and describe 1,ow this building is sitwated, so that file xiight he able to locate Lhis lb~uilding. P A t. Approved For Release 2000/0"jBe.-IC~.%-FJPQB-nO788ROO2100320001-4 T- 3 t/f ~f- Approved For Release 2000/08/ 8/ -IOT99ROO2100320001-4 #11-1 5art (A Vq V shaped ~,,~nd there's scm~e kind of larcie T-shared vt,arehouse or sonieffiing bo-orii~d J,f thai- runn Lo the end, aod there's a top on it like .-1 -1 . The-lo's a alley that ~vuns around it that makes like a T inter.""o'ction by thr~-,, q-rfv~ or the T of the buil,ding or warehouse. `[he market areo ox~ whatever it is going away cUrves tr) the teft$ :v9d the bo~,h rwiris cowe If.1o a.. ~Iike ,-3, main roacl. Only you can't drivet yo;,.j cwllt, d"cive except or) the main road, It's, very o thirz! center of towi~ It"'-; Irike I get, a feeling I'Llv,3 a special, sjw-!c:-,,.aA place to buy a CE'1't0A11 thing. Likz,:~ housevvares -,~r som~eth.irq, Ulu Hke thirsys yc~u buy ior kLtchens and st-Ifff. #66 Th"i,z-, part -icu lar Wrlldlflg. 01 No. This market place thaL thi,,,, building's buoy. Like, you, go there to buy a soap dish or samethirig or -a carving kn.-1.fc,. #66.~ If I wanted to -buy a kitchen uten.-,~j,-L I s.,xuld covie to particular choppiny are,,:)? If YOU Were a MtiVC-, yes. 466: And, how aboU to this particular buildin,,-,~. Why woulcl I go J to this Particular bhildillTj? IN) I T think this building is... .like P, L-rans-.s4hipment building, ~7 A 1 jyj.~4 . -~ .- i t I ke a receiving building of some, E. I don't thii i". t la", a function as rar as the rnzirkeL area, bUt ill-I'S.....they ar(,,,, handling qoods here. I alxiasil, get a--T almost get a Feel for omugg-ling or Siome Vif id ~ Whoever these, -,.)euple are, 1C.hey're dealing on tho sided to speak, 6) f S 0 ka Y . I'd like You to returl-4 YC-Air perceptions now 'U~a th,,~ originnI roor~,,, whe~r(-,~ Jones is~ Your inilUal comment's wea,e +20 something about i:,i round room. #01: It's like ... yeah*,- #66,. fteak that out for me. PAUSE #01: It's like there's no coener:3 o-n one .1 L I s. . U le wzAls are rounded. When I go cutoide U,) look aL the wall, 'I 1 see a different, (-.)f the, wall. So thal, the ruvvl li-a-~Y riot be the cans, but, they'd be fronL and left of whc~,Tc the cans are. Ths-P~3 all, I ~ that's oll I can explain. #66,-, May. If I unde~~stand corr,-..~C~-Ay, ynu Jnne,-,~i in tho 1~,nu~q with .3 other Peoplo? Yes. Approved For Release 2000/OILJQLM^RDPPeo"788ROO2100320001-4 k--~ L.%j i % ~ r- Approved For Release 2000/08/V%TA-mR #66. You feel I-A-iat this is ,3 group of' hosL,'~,ges? 1 Aha, tt ,y arre- PC" _).n1_ .A'at You #66 And~ cis far ijii guard CXPJ,~.iir . two older men ~ #0 1 'kw older men, yeal. #66. 1hree youngor mecl, plus a ter.A-l age typed ci,.,en 'Armad in some blay? #01, The three young men ai-,~e. They'rep they go,41- their f`ace-~ cswcred, an,d Lhey're arme-d with ........ 3cme kind ~of rJ.1264. They gcjt,. ... they all got lem at sling am like, .. with the vmuz-zles doviri-_ #66 Okay. NOW, rctising hi.gh up over, arc,,a, tell mie more about the locaticri of the Wildin5 and the ma.rket,, and the ma 1.~-j f;ty. e PAUSE. #01 Tlie main road just, goes, to am.)Lher main road to maka -i intersew-Lion in the touw,~ Feel 1-ike Als in tlhn of the City somewl"Iere. #66 ()k a y . E)Wore you salid it wzts in tfie ccnf,,-A,,-r oF c:ity-, ~Can ycr)u break CIA YOUl' raw perceptions? i,~J trl~lel center, buL it's in aoutJ,wiest extreimle, f"clge I of the cc,,nter. Get a fc,~cAJ.ng like a box. Y,,,r.,xi Could say t"ric Center of the city is a box; tA-Iis wmild bp Ln the .101yer, left hanA cormnr on a main road that kind of leads aut oF them city. it 6 6 t Okay . Da you re-cognize this city? #01 - Yeah, I think it's, I really Lllhink it's Teherzwi. But, I 11 J,Uop ~j 1'0~; "lat4jo ool o'.1 ".)uo mm-lj bo-pll-em Jl,-AAU) pu'r.1 10101) 1. 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T teenager sitIting there,, You've get. the X 2M the circle, you've got onic, yc',king guard Lhei.,c,, and you've got two young guards ba~,;k hlarer. Only I just know theyli~e there, JT can't tell J*T they'ria sitting or standinq. #66: Okay. In drawing 4 Unten, the 3 Xr, indic,.Ae th(-.' gW~11-ds that are armed. The twc Go, inclicate o1c ier gm,,Uemen; and the T indicatcm a teenager; t'-ind the little cij.~cles are the cario,. #01. Rightv richt, right. and t-hen theru~ls 1st pl.led . 3 ~ ~ , , can5 jL. all in the front here, and I dont, knmii wh,;A they `mt I think they I re hot. You kno'g, I get a distinct Smuggler feeling when I see these cans. Like maybe thase guys gt_f~,irds by clay arid by night. YOU knmv,, That ,~;ort of thing. Real shiny silver can,,~, you ~knaw, almost like tt-~.iS StUiilleSS ZAFIE.1,1 that I s, real ... you know-Ahis sterile surg4 C~1 type stec;,l that you sec, in a room They're hermetically sealed and they're-J.'. don't know what's in I Lim. I didn't. rea,11y look. jl_iot a vc.,~ry shirly Cans. #66. And, 'then your Fcc-.A.ings, again, about this city thrA thi3 is locate,d in being Teheran, can YOU elaborate on that feell'Ag at all? #01: y6s.- I jUSt felt .... y0a'[). I JUSL felt like.-okay ... them main street, this being the, area of hms~tagos, okayt the main road went like this,_.en6.,~~d downtown, and I get I r d we m a( the fecAing like ..... that's not very far.....six blocks, L f e(_,7 J n u kn :,_I, xCI ou know, ;six city blocks, comes to a big U shaped aVeTME'o I " .1 _ _ , , like four laries 'E11-1C1-LJh-JJ1i3 i'3 ME' main fuity Okay dvew. it-:--m i