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       MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
       SUBJECT: Minutes of the Grill Flame Steering Committee Meeting, 14 Feb 79
       1. (U) Place: DIA Director's Conference Room, The Pentagon.
       2. (U) Time and Date: 1400, 14 Feb 79
       3. (U) Attendees:
       # MG James L. Brown, US Air Force Assistant Chief of Staff
       for Intelligence
          * MG E. R. Thompson, US Army Assistant Chief of Staff for
       Intelligence
       e Dr. Jack Vorona, Deputy Director for Scientific and
       Technical Intelligence, DIA
          e Dr. Bob Dailey, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense
       Research and Engineering (Research and Advanced
       Technology)
          SG11 * Dr. Bill Mehuron, Naval Intelligence Command
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       4. (S-ORCON) The meeting began with Dr. Vorona's review of the SRI brief-
       ing which had been presented to the House Select Committee on Intelligence
       by Hal Puthoff and Russ Targ on 13 Feb 1979. Dr. Vorona also presented
       his briefing on remote viewing to the committee. Both briefings were
       well accepted by the committee. The committee members asked a number of
       questions, particularly on funding. The SRI personnel expressed their
       concern that their remote viewing program could not continue unless out-
       side support was obtained. Congressman Rose asked Dr. Vorona what was
       needed to get the job done and what the committee could do to support
       the program. Dr. Vorona commented that a strong letter to DoD should re-
       move the reluctance of some people to deal with the subject of psycho-
       energetics. SG1 I
       5. (S-ORCON) discussed the proposed goals and objectives of
       the Grill Flame Committee, based on their meeting held earlier in the
       day (Incl 1). MG Thompson suggested that the last goal, intelligence threat
       assessment, be moved to the top as the primary goal of all participants.
       6. (S-ORCbN) Further discussion centered on the issue of funding. Dr.
       Vorona was concerned about the funding level for SRI. All members were
       concerned about the source of funds for SRI as well as the role the
       government should assume in this area. Other possible research facilities
       were also discussed.
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