-00787ROO0200080031 -0 -proved For Release 2001/03/26 CIA-RDP96 A?? D-RM O)DII FA3Z JULY 19T9 V D@ 0Nr-A .MTa HIL By Mliam K. Stuckey t is nct c!ear whether Charlie Rose seeks 0-3 ever-growing Mind-Over- Far-Out (Moto) vote- Governor Jerry Brown of Ca!dfornia certainly does-or what 'Rose would do with it if he got it. The Moto vale is not very conspicuous in the tidewa,.ar district of North Carolina that Rose represents as a Democratic congressman. But Charlie (that's what he puts on his letterhead) certainly has the pulpit end connections, possibly the power, and definitely the inclination to p, oduce a Moto spectacular. What Representative Rose would like to do is call a congressional hearing soon to confirm publicly that the CIA and the Pentagon have successfully demonstrated lliat certain psi powers are real and can be used for intelligence purposes, and the Soviet Union is probably ahead of the United States, Rose is the chairman of the evaluation subcommittee of the House Permanent Committee on Intelligence and. as such. is a principal watchdog of spook affairs. In that capacity he has recently witnessed several classified demonstrations of .rernote viewing' by Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and intelligence per- sonnel-in which the experimental sub;ects "viewed" persons and places thousands of kilometers away in certain 'interesting" countries. , W! I can say is tha(if the results were faked, our security system doesn't work," Rose told me cryptically "What these persons -saw- was confirmed by aerial photography There's no way it could have been faked," As to( the Soviet Union's undertakings in this area, Rose disclosed, 'I've been told by the CIA that the Russians are very interested in psychic phenomena and that their whole effort is underground. They have a national screening program to detect mathematical, artistic, or psychic abilities in schoolchildren. The CIA, an the vher hand, spends next to nothing in this area, except to find out what the Russians are doing.' Thewilmesses Rose would call include CIA officials who. Rose said, "know this remota-viewing sluftworks but who havi been blocked by publicity-shy superiors.' Another key witness might be Di. Robert Jahn, dean of engineering and applied science at Princeton University who with graduate student Carol Curry is developing an instrument to detect small-scale psychokinetic effects-not of the theatrical Geller spoon-bending type, but a more modest effort to determine whether a subject might "will" a grain of sand to move. Diehard Motoers will also recognize the names of other potential witnesses, such as Edgar Mitchell, the astronaut who conducted an ESP experiment (with apparently ambiguous results) between' the moon's surface and Earth; Dr, Harold Puthotf and Russell Targ, two Stanford Research Institute psychic researchers whose reports, claiming that literally every person they have tested can perform remote viewing. have been published in Nature and the IEEE Proceedings; and Dr, Willis Harman, an SRI futures researcher Rep. chartie Rose in front of the capiloL widely sought after by major corporations and foundations, who is so convinced of the reality of psychic phenomena that he wouldn't walk across tMe street lowitness a levitation:' Congressman Rose, like Harman and the other potential witnesses, in other words, has seen and betieves. "Some of the intelligence people I've talked to kncw that remote viewing works, although they still block further research on it, since they claim it's not yet as accurate as satellite photography," Rose asserted. 'But it seems to me that it would be a hell of a cheap radar system, And it the Russians have it and we don't. we are in serious trouble. This country wasn't afraid to look into the strange physics behind lasers and semiconductors, and I don't think it should be afraid to look at this." When I first met him, Charlie was concerned that some of the academic debunkers at the psychic -whose principal spokesman is Mar tin Gardner, of Scientific American -might stifle objective, High Science research in this fiercely debated area. That he might even 'investigate" the debunkers adds another dimension to the hearings Rosa proposes. Charlie might also find himself in a locked-horn made with some of the keen- est thinkers of the day: Dr. John Wheeler for example, a renowned physicist, who wrote the first paper on nuclear fission with Niels Bohr and who associated w0r' Einstein for more than 20 years, recently suggested the expulsion of parapsychology groups from the respected umbrella organization. the American Association for the Advancement of Science. But Wheeler and Gardner are not close to His Leadership and Democratic Highness Boston's own Thomas 'Tip" O'Neill. and Charlie Rose is. Rose fits some, but far from all, of the stereotypes that New York pa(ochials would attach to Southern congressmen. it is true that he is a Southern Presbyterian, and a "religious ona": that he loves his chairmanships of various agricultural-subcommittees on poultry, dairy prorlucts, and tolDaccci Approved For Release 2001103126: CIA-RDP96-00787ROO020008003I.-O CONTINW, -J tn a scientist or intaltl, back home. Idd to iead toe Mofo r prophets'7 1110. he s orofessio na: but a Chapel Hill North i There are two more Charlieyet another convert , 9oses that to Alvin Toffler, the , Carolina. lawyer and don't fit country stereotypesrespected futurist-author fo-mer county prose- One is the of Futu!-P, Shock c,.,:!or, You see that Rose who is the House'sTcffler -convinced Rose trap jaw and hear the a@:kno.%,lecfged that Conq:ess accent and you think expert on computers, piaying'llussian rouiettewi:h of those relaxed rural accyding 'o Gary the future by D :.. s @%no might say. Hymel, the speaker's igno,ing it in most -Nov Jake. we know right-hand rian. And of its ;egisiation. ' He in- ' kwed your wife. So don Rose is founder of Capito'troduced Rose to that t go lyin Hill s r-c-3t Mofo growing think-tank about Just get you., story activity the CongressionalindLs!ry of futurology togetherv.,hile I go Geaw@ghouse which accord:ng to get " y,:)u a cup of coffee. on the Future--the science-fict:onone (of several conflicting) v.,ing defin it Ions. uses The o:'her Charlie Rose.of Congress," accordingavailable information however, is a to a science-ori- and mixes in hunches P,ol:606 of Terry Sanford.ented congressman. and personal theories the former south- to pred;ct what is emly liberal governor The Mofo aspect of the going to happen in crucial of North Carolina, clearinghouse is and vital areas, ex-university president.detected in the pages In 1974 Congress passed and a once- of its fascinating an internal act hopeful entrant into monthly newsletter, requiring its committees Democratic presiden- "What's 'Next?" There to conduct tial primary elections one finds the news and periodic futures research. -which attracted "all vieois jDf 'he L-5 and by 1976 i the bright young Southernspace colony people, Rose and Cheatharn were liberals like : the anarchistic; ap- sending the Charlie Rose," and not propriate technology House a stream of both one veteran Capitol of wondrous Karl close-in and I cbserver. Elected to Hess, the soft-energy farthest-out futurists Congress in 1972, boys. the. worker- to prophesy what lay 9ose made a key early owned-corporation boosters,in store for all of commitment to the cosmic- us. ' support O consciousness kids, Today the clearinghouse Neill for House majorityand the Committee for functions as a le.ader Tip now speaker of the the Elimination of Death."caucus." not an official House, considers Under its imagin- congressional Charlie one of his key ative director, Ann committee, but rather Southern lieutenants, Cheatham, the clearing-an informal Hil;- ' one who doesn house also hold5 its based activity financed t mind doirg the necessarymonthly "Chautauqua by contributions but dirty and no-publicity-valueCongress"- think-and-talkfrom interested members jobs that sessions with of Congress and keep Congress functioning.both "futures," and other supporters. Many The House In- more conventional, Senate luminaries ex- telligence Committee perts, who produce recommendedare firmly behind the (chaired by another legisla- project. ' of Tip tion with a long e r-thThough it can't yet s buddies, Massachusettsan-u su al-terrin twist.claim many legislative Repre- senfative Edward Boland)(For the remainder of victories, Rose's clearinghouse is one super job. the year Chautauqua -in con- since most of its hearingswill deal with future junction with Rose's are closed to the housing; "soft" appro- hearings on psychic life-giving (to congressmen)priate technology vs. ihtelligence gathering press and "hard" conventional -will no doubt lead technology: the scientificto some of the oddest nature of life, in- debates, most cluding genetic manipulation;astounding legislation, the future and weirdest wit- social culture; and nesses in congressional even "cosmic con- histcry. California sciousness.") has set up shop on Capitol Hill. DO Approved For Release 2001/03/26 : CIA-RDP96-00787ROO0200080031 -0